Re: Whatever happened to conviction of sins?

On Apr 1, 6:09 pm, rtdav...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

> This is why Jesus talked more about hell than heaven....

Did he indeed?

Aside from the dubious hadith about Dives and Lazarus where does he
speak about either of them?  Aside from mere references like th ones
about  drinking wine in paradise.

We do not even know from the gospels that the living Jesus (before his
own death) believed in resurrection. However we are reasonably sure
that some of the Jews (those of them called Pharisees as opposed to
those called Sadducees) did believe in resurrection. But this kind of
resurrection was the resurrection on Judgment Day.

We must not confused the symbolic Christ of Revelation with the living
Jesus. There is no evidence that Jesus taught what Revelation says (in
fact, indications are that revelation was new to John). Jesus is
re****ted as describing the final days in terms similar to those in
Revelation - but not identical. But Jesus' stops before the story
reaches Paradise.

What do people here think Jesus said about either of these subjects? I
mean the living Jesus and not Paul or any other follower and not the
Church. If you want to quote the Gospel of Thomas feel free. I don't
think it adds much.