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Re: Whatever happened to conviction of sins?

by rtdavide@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 2, 2008 at 02:09 AM

On Mar 30, 7:35=A0pm, AJA <ahnem...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> "DKleinecke" <dkleine...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>
> news:Q6YGj.6128$Pc2.2017@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Agreeing with what you say in your post. =A0And this:
>
> > Nowadays wallowing in one's own unworthiness has largely gone out of
> > style. Hence there is less talk about damnation and vengeance. >
>
> Saying that, I don't count as "trendy" to proclaim a loving God who we
are=

> assured has the very best interests in mind for all mankind. =A0Helfire
an=
d
> damnation, while one is able to quote chapter and verse about such, is
not=

> the Gospel good news. =A0Christ was with God, St. John records, before
the=

> world (and sin) began. =A0That is the God we wor****p. =A0I'm quite sure
th=
at the
> first time a Christian meets a person who is searching doesn't rail on
abo=
ut
> sin and damnation on the first meeting. =A0That searcher would run like
fu=
ry!
> I grew up on hellfire sermons and thank God the Light has dawned.
=A0Best
> leave it to the theologians to work out sin theology. =A0We ordinary
> Christians would do well to reflect as best we can the love that is God.
>
> Blessings,
> Ann

The problem with avoiding sin and damnation is that salvation is
nothing apart from it.
This is why Jesus talked more about hell than heaven....

if you don't have a problem in the first place, then you don't need a
savior.
however the bible is very clear that God sees a very big problem with
our sin.... it removes us from him and that means we are lost and
damned.
we have a savior, because we need to be saved. we need to be saved
because we are lost and doomed on our own.

just thinking about Gods love is not enough, because we innately love
ourselves far more than we love anything else. and when push comes to
shove, we will almost always choose what we want, even when
detrimental to our long term interests or the interests of others. We
are sinners and we must recognize that fact first. only then can we
find rest for our souls in Jesus.
 




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Whatever happened to conviction of sins?
Jacob <jninan@[EMAIL P  2008-03-25 02:08:38 
Re: Whatever happened to conviction of sins?
shegeek72 <karmictarag  2008-03-26 23:45:53 
Re: Whatever happened to conviction of sins?
DKleinecke <dkleinecke  2008-03-28 01:47:28 
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AJA <ahnemann@[EMAIL P  2008-03-31 02:35:13 
Re: Whatever happened to conviction of sins?
Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-03-31 02:35:14 
Re: Whatever happened to conviction of sins?
Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-03-31 02:35:14 
Re: Whatever happened to conviction of sins?
DKleinecke <dkleinecke  2008-04-01 01:41:50 
Re: Whatever happened to conviction of sins?
rtdavide@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-02 02:09:57 
Re: Whatever happened to conviction of sins?
DKleinecke <dkleinecke  2008-04-03 00:55:13 
Re: Whatever happened to conviction of sins?
A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-07 02:27:23 
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B <BGKent@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-07 02:27:24 
Re: Whatever happened to conviction of sins?
Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-07 02:27:25 
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rtdavide@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-07 02:27:27 
Re: Whatever happened to conviction of sins?
DKleinecke <dkleinecke  2008-04-08 02:38:18 
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RP <rpalino@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-08 02:38:19 
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rtdavide@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-09 00:16:29 
Re: Whatever happened to conviction of sins?
Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-09 00:16:30 
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rtdavide@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-10 03:58:12 
Re: Whatever happened to conviction of sins?
AJA <ahnemann@[EMAIL P  2008-04-11 02:20:21 
Re: Whatever happened to conviction of sins?
DKleinecke <dkleinecke  2008-04-11 02:20:26 
Re: Whatever happened to conviction of sins?
B <BGKent@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-14 00:29:28 
Re: Whatever happened to conviction of sins?
rtdavide@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-14 00:29:39 
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rtdavide@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-14 00:29:39 
Re: Whatever happened to conviction of sins?
AJA <ahnemann@[EMAIL P  2008-04-17 00:33:02 
Re: Whatever happened to conviction of sins?
B <BGKent@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-17 00:33:02 
Re: Whatever happened to conviction of sins?
Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-18 04:49:36 
Re: Whatever happened to conviction of sins?
Eric Bohn <bsee_1991@[  2008-05-01 00:44:39 
Re: Whatever happened to conviction of sins?
A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-02 02:44:33 
Re: Whatever happened to conviction of sins?
Eric Bohn <bsee_1991@[  2008-05-08 01:43:46 
Re: Whatever happened to conviction of sins?
B <BGKent@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-09 01:44:50 

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