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Re: Do Christians Sin?

by Matthew Johnson <matthew_member@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 18, 2008 at 01:57 AM

In article <JOiDj.12541$hP3.10812@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, AJA says...
>

[snip]

>As a friend of mine, a Methodist pastor, says,
>What we currently have in popular evangelical Christianity is an unhappy
mix 
>of Calvinism and Arminianism.

Which mix like oil and water:(

>On the one hand, folks feel they are saved by 
>faith & can never be lost, on the other they think they  sin every day in

>thought, word, and deed.  So,  salvation  is understood as status with
God 
>and special privileges:  Christians aren't perfect [they say], they re
just 
>forgiven.

Like the bumper-sticker says.

>But, the message of "holiness of heart and life" is rarely heard. 
>Or, if it is, it is in the form of an unhealthy legalism.

Ah, but this is the problem: because so many people can conceive of
salvation
_only_ in terms of the false dichotomy between Calvinism and Arminianism,
they
feel compelled to count themselves as member of one or the other camp.
This in
turn means they feel compelled to follow either the bumper sticker or
legalism.

It is to try to show a third way that I put so much effort into opposing
Calvinism in the threads on "free-will" (in this NG and in SRC.B-S) and
even
translated a large part of St. Symeon's sermon on this _very_ topic in
msg-id
<8C82637B-F793-36F0-12D3-BD79F275D7B9@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>.

>What is needed is teaching and awareness of the "fullness of God's love"
for 
>us.  See the site quoted at:

>http://web.mac.com/craigadams1/Commonplace_Holiness/Blog/Entries/2008/3/10_Our_Mission%2C_Our_Glory%2C_Our_Power..html

I saw the website, I don't see the teaching and awareness there.


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Subducat se sibi ut haereat Deo
Quidquid boni habet tribuat illi a quo factus est
(Sanctus Aurelius Augustinus, Ser. 96)
 




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Do Christians Sin?
Be.Ye.Holy.For.I.Am.Holy@  2008-03-12 00:40:34 
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Dave <dave_and_darla@[  2008-03-13 01:50:35 
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A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-17 00:19:53 
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AJA <ahnemann@[EMAIL P  2008-03-17 00:19:53 
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"B.G. Kent" <  2008-03-17 00:19:55 
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Be.Ye.Holy.For.I.Am.Holy@  2008-03-17 00:19:55 
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**Rowland Croucher** <  2008-03-17 00:19:56 
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Just Visiting <nospam-  2008-03-17 00:19:59 
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Dave <dave_and_darla@[  2008-03-18 01:57:29 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-03-18 01:57:30 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-03-18 01:57:30 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-03-18 01:57:31 
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Dave <dave_and_darla@[  2008-03-18 01:57:29 
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Dave <dave_and_darla@[  2008-03-19 00:17:13 
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Doodle <Doodle@[EMAIL   2008-03-20 03:16:53 
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**Rowland Croucher** <  2008-03-20 03:16:52 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-03-25 02:08:37 
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AJA <ahnemann@[EMAIL P  2008-03-25 02:08:40 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-25 02:08:38 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-25 02:08:38 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-03-26 23:45:53 
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A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-26 23:45:54 
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Doodle <Doodle@[EMAIL   2008-03-26 23:45:54 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-03-28 01:47:28 
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A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-31 02:35:15 
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AJA <ahnemann@[EMAIL P  2008-03-31 02:35:15 
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RP <rpalino@[EMAIL PRO  2008-03-31 02:35:16 
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A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-31 02:35:15 
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AJA <ahnemann@[EMAIL P  2008-03-31 02:35:15 
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RP <rpalino@[EMAIL PRO  2008-03-31 02:35:16 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-01 01:41:49 
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Catherine Jefferson <s  2008-04-02 02:09:57 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-03 00:55:13 
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curmudgeon <briticanla  2008-04-03 00:55:14 

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