On Mar 12, 5:50 pm, Dave <dave_and_da...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Mar 11, 7:40 pm, Be.Ye.Holy.For.I.Am.H...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>
> > "The whole design of God was to restore man to his image, and raise
> > him from the ruins of his fall; in a word, to make him perfect; to
> > blot out all his sins, purify his soul, and fill him with all
> > holiness, so that no unholy temper, evil desire, or impure affection
> > or passion shall either lodge or have any being within him. This and
> > this only is true religion, or Christian perfection; and a less
> > salvation than this would be dishonourable to the sacrifice of Christ
> > and the operation of the Holy Ghost. . . . Call it by what name we
> > please, it must imply the pardon of all transgression and the removal
> > of the whole body of sin and death. . . . This, then, is what I plead
> > for, pray for, and heartily recommend to all true believers, under the
> > name of Christian perfection." -Adam Clark
>
> Of course Christians sin. "If we say that we have no sin, we are
> deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us" (1 John 1:8). If
> Christians understand the truth that God's Word teaches about the
> depravity of the human heart, they know that just because they are not
> conscious of failure does not mean that they are free from it. If the
> truth is "in" them as a controlling, motivating influence, this kind
> of self-deception will not take place. Whether someone claims to be
> "without sin" for a brief period of time or claims it as a permanent
> attainment, the claim is false.
>
> Dave
The Bible says, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves,
and the truth is not in us."
These words were written by the apostle John in I John 1:8. The Bible
teaches that all have sinned and come short of the glory of God, and
therefore all need a Saviour to reconcile them to God. John addressed
this to those claiming they had no guilt, no pollution of sin, and no
need of a Saviour. This is not referring to someone that has been born
again through the blood of the Lamb and has been cleansed "from all
unrighteousness" (I Jn. 1:9).
John said, "These things write I unto you, that ye sin not (I Jn.
2:1). This message is clearly declared throughout his epistles:
". . . the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin." I
Jn. 1:7.
"He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a
liar, and the truth is not in him." I Jn. 2:4.
"And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins...Whosoever
abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him,
neither known him. Little children, let no man deceive you, he that
doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He that
committeth sin is of the devil, for the devil sinneth from the
beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he
might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth
not commit sin...In this the children of God are manifest and the
children of the devil . . ." I Jn. 3:5-10.
The apostle's message is clear and is in accordance with other New
Testament writers. Those who would try to use I John 1:8 to uphold
their sinning religion, wrest it to their own destruction and contrary
to the tenure of all the scriptures.
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