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Re: For Arminians and Calvinists.....

by Matthew Johnson <matthew_member@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 21, 2008 at 10:07 AM

In article <3CEB5CC1-0131-3C50-D432-3857108922BA@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Bob Felts
says...

[snip]
>> It is a red herring. How God saves infants I cannot tell. 
>
>You can, you just don't want to, because it puts the lie to your
>works-based gospel.

How convenient it would be for you, Bob, if this were really true! But it
is
not.

>  How God saves infants is the exact same way He
>saves adults:  by grace. 

Are you trying to play a shell game with theology? Of course Gary will
have to
agree that it is "by grace", but what you are hiding under the shell is:
lots of
different things can be "by grace", without them being "the exact same
way".

What a disgraceful shell game!

[snip]


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Quidquid boni habet tribuat illi a quo factus est
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