Re: For Arminians and Calvinists.....

Bart Goddard <goddardbe@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> semi <seminole10003@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
> news:C76EDF43-08A5-3E19-5B3F-2C252EFD2FD7@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
> 
> > If I choose to exercise volition and another person does not, and both
> > persons sense that they should act upon what is revealed unto them
> > (supposing they both receive the same revelation), then the one who
> > chose to act cannot say that they are better than the one who chose
not
> > to act,
> 
> Wouldn't a pharisee say the same thing about being saved by obeying some
> other law?  Before two people lie the same commandments, and one
exercises
> volition to obey them, while the other does not.  In a salvation by
works
> system, the first person _is_ better than the second.
> 
> In the case you bring up, you differentiate between two persons faced
with
> the same law "Love God", and one chooses to obey and the other does not.
> I'm having a tough time seeing this is anything but pharisism.
> 
> If a man wants to know whether he is saved, and he looks to himself ("Am
I
> good enough?"  "Do I have enought faith?"  "Am I sincere enough" etc.)

Have I believed?

> then he is following a self-righteous theology.  If a man wants to know
> whether he is saved and he looks at Jesus, then he knows the answer: 
Yes.
> 

Lots of people who looked at Jesus weren't saved.  Perhaps you meant
"to" instead of "at"?  But then, that opens up a whole 'nother can of
works.  Some people look to Him as a good moral teacher.  Is that
salvific?  Some look to Him as an itinerant Jew.  Etc...

But, again, the question arises, "did I look rightly?" and you're right
back at the start.


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