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For Arminians and Calvinists.....

by semi <seminole10003@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 23, 2008 at 12:26 PM

We ultimately believe that God gets the glory for our salvation. So
even though Arminians might say they choose God, how does that take
away glory from God? I ask this question because certain Calvinists
blame Arminians for attributing some form of righteousness in
themselves for choosing God, when I do not think this is the case. The
act of choosing or responding to God's call is not something that one
can boast about because every human being has that capacity of
choosing. If I choose to exercise volition and another person does
not, and both persons sense that they should act upon what is revealed
unto them (supposing they both receive the same revelation), then the
one who chose to act cannot say that they are better than the one who
chose not to act, neither will they sense in their conscience that
such a thing is worth boasting over. So I cannot see the point of some
Calvinists, such as R.C. Sproul (whom I respect in many ways)
concerning this issue.



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