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Re: God is not a Trinity

by Matthew Johnson <matthew_member@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dec 16, 2007 at 05:09 PM

In article <78B3576C-640E-92F1-0314-561761A06213@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, gary
says...

>"Miguel" <responderalgrupo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>news:AB39770C-6C43-D3C9-D9C4-74BF5F55AFBB@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> "gary" <biblicist@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> escribió en el mensaje
>> news:1ABC5F9F-5897-7B37-6656-BB20B88FC2F0@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>

[snip]

>> And that strange that after of more of ten centuries, the people
discover
>> that those writings of the Church Fathers were wrong.

>They were wrong when  they wrote them.

If you actually _knew_ the Fathers, you would not accept this conclusion
so
breezily. Especially when they were accepted as mostly correct for _so_
long.

>Are you aware that the "church 
>fahters" disagreed on some doctrines? Since they contradicted each other,

>how can they all be correct? They can't.

Now what was that supposed to mean? Do you really expect us to believe
that just
because they can differ on _some_ doctrines, we cannot count on them to be
correct when they all agree? Or at least to speak with great and weighty
authority when they all agree?

>> Pass on to reliable people what you have heard from me through many
>> witnesses so that they in turn will be able to teach others.
>> (2 Timothy 2:2, New Jerusalem Bible)
>
>Precisely. We are to pass on what Paul, and the other writers of
scripture 
>taught. Since we have their writing preserved in Scripture, we can all go
to 
>the source and determine for ourselves the truth.

Ah, but when many people _claim_ to be all doing this, then _they_ are the
ones
who "disagree on some doctrines" and even "contradict each other". So now
you
have left us with a situation in which Paul can be right, but when we read
Paul,
we cannot be right!

[snip]

>The only true fundamental doctrines are directly from Scripture. Any 
>additions by man may be in error.

But _are_ they additions? And even if they are 'additions', some may be in
error, but by the same token, some may NOT be in error. But you use this
response to dismiss _all_ of them. That's not right.

[snip]


-- 
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Subducat se sibi ut haereat Deo
Quidquid boni habet tribuat illi a quo factus est
(Sanctus Aurelius Augustinus, Ser. 96) 


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God is not a Trinity
"dell12345" <  2007-11-20 13:56:11 
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Dave <dave_and_darla@[  2007-11-20 18:41:46 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-11-24 20:45:48 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-11-20 21:22:48 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-11-23 12:49:33 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-11-23 21:37:18 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-11-26 17:34:17 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-11-25 06:56:41 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-05 18:19:03 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-07 07:51:25 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-11 14:33:36 
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Bart Goddard <goddardb  2007-12-11 20:05:55 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-12 08:23:34 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-12 08:23:28 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-06 08:54:02 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-07 11:14:05 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-07 21:43:21 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-08 18:20:23 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-09 10:58:56 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-12 08:23:53 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-14 09:50:13 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-14 14:10:30 
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Bart Goddard <goddardb  2007-12-14 18:54:21 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-14 18:54:35 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-16 17:09:19 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-17 08:21:59 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-16 17:09:04 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-17 22:03:26 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-11 14:34:10 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-16 17:09:49 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-13 15:25:27 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-13 20:00:26 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-13 20:00:32 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-02-03 22:57:13 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-29 21:58:23 
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Bart Goddard <goddardb  2007-12-31 07:25:37 
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