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Re: God is not a Trinity

by "Miguel" <responderalgrupo@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dec 5, 2007 at 01:19 PM

<lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> escribió en el mensaje 
news:8BBBCB1E-55C2-E2E1-43BB-2DFCDC05C224@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Dec 3, 6:14 pm, "Miguel" <responderalgr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> <lsend...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> escribi=F3 en el 
>> mensajenews:85E7F384-462A-0CB4-FDC=
> 5-28ED1E844D62@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>> Really there it is clear that after the baptism is when is considered 
>> that=
>
>> the person believed.
>>
> Rom 4.  Baptism has no efficacy.  It is faith and faith alone that
> saves.  Water
> baptism is a "good work" that extends out of saving faith.  Water
> baptism in
> and of itself accomplishes no more than cir***cision did for the Jew.
> It
> identifies you with a group, but that is merely externalism.  It is
> only when one
> has been baptized by the Spirit in regeneration that the capacity to
> receive
> the gift of faith occurs.  Prior to that we are "dead in sin," "slaves
> to un-
> righteousness" and slaves of Satan who snatches away the Gospel.
>
> "It is ALL from Him, through Him and to Him."


But do you have some biblical text that explain that the salvation is by 
"faith alone"?

Because according to the verses that I exposed in the previous message, 
clearly the Baptism of Water coincides with the Baptism of the Spirit.

I think that, when someone is explaining a fundamental christian doctrine 
without a biblical base, that only is human philosophy.

Make sure that no one captivates you with the empty lure of a 'philosophy'

of the kind that human beings hand on, based on the principles of this
world 
and not on Christ.
(Collosians 2:8, New Jerusalem Bible)

-- 
Miguel M. Yalán
http://mmyv.com



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God is not a Trinity
"dell12345" <  2007-11-20 13:56:11 
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Dave <dave_and_darla@[  2007-11-20 18:41:46 
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checker@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-11-20 21:23:20 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-11-24 20:45:48 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-11-20 21:22:48 
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"dell12345" <  2007-11-22 18:27:30 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-11-23 12:49:33 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-11-23 21:37:18 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-11-26 17:34:17 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-09 10:58:47 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-11-21 09:01:48 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-11-25 06:56:41 
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Bart Goddard <goddardb  2007-12-11 20:07:59 
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Sarah Kanary <skanary@  2007-11-24 20:46:02 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-11-25 06:57:32 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-11-25 06:58:01 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-11-29 18:51:00 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-11-30 14:52:34 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-01 20:52:04 
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Bart Goddard <goddardb  2007-12-02 08:10:13 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-03 18:14:47 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-04 13:25:53 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-06 18:09:01 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-01 20:52:09 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-01 20:51:15 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-03 18:14:36 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-04 13:25:35 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-03 18:14:51 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-04 20:35:12 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-05 18:19:03 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-05 13:19:05 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-05 13:18:59 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-04 20:35:23 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-05 13:18:37 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-07 07:51:25 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-07 07:51:27 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-11 14:33:36 
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Bart Goddard <goddardb  2007-12-11 20:05:55 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-12 08:23:34 
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Bart Goddard <goddardb  2007-12-14 14:10:02 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-16 17:09:10 
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"steveo" <gn  2007-12-11 20:09:27 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-12 08:23:28 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-05 18:18:28 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-06 08:54:02 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-07 07:51:10 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-06 18:08:46 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-06 18:08:52 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-07 11:14:05 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-07 21:43:21 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-08 18:20:23 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-09 10:58:56 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-10 07:41:49 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-10 11:15:19 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-11 14:34:13 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-12 08:23:53 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-14 09:50:13 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-14 14:10:30 
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Bart Goddard <goddardb  2007-12-14 18:54:21 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-14 18:54:35 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-16 17:09:19 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-17 08:21:59 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-16 17:09:04 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-17 22:03:26 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-14 09:50:18 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-10 21:39:21 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-11 14:34:06 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-11 14:34:10 
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Bart Goddard <goddardb  2007-12-11 20:08:05 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-11 20:09:31 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-12 08:23:49 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-11 20:09:50 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-12 08:23:40 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-11 20:11:02 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-12 08:23:45 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-16 17:09:49 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-12 19:33:01 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-13 15:25:27 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-13 20:00:26 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-12 19:33:05 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-13 20:00:32 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-14 18:54:24 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-16 17:08:57 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-17 22:03:33 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-18 16:44:05 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-23 07:42:57 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-24 22:27:53 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-26 07:36:56 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-27 11:59:33 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-16 17:09:29 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-16 17:09:35 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-16 17:12:23 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-14 18:54:32 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-16 17:09:58 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-17 22:03:19 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-18 16:44:18 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-18 16:44:21 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-20 11:01:01 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-21 16:31:02 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-29 21:57:23 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-03-13 07:29:17 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-03-14 10:36:40 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-03-15 16:02:38 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-02-03 06:01:27 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-02-03 22:57:13 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-02-08 07:34:39 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-01-01 00:20:45 
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wrf3@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-01-02 22:23:09 
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"gary" <bibl  2008-02-01 07:10:56 
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wrf3@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-02-03 06:01:54 
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"gary" <bibl  2008-03-07 22:40:25 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-01-03 13:18:55 
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Bart Goddard <goddardb  2008-01-04 14:54:35 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-01-05 19:54:45 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-29 21:58:23 
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Bart Goddard <goddardb  2007-12-31 07:25:37 
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"gary" <bibl  2008-03-07 22:40:46 
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Bart Goddard <goddardb  2008-03-08 16:18:13 
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"gary" <bibl  2008-03-09 10:40:21 
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Bart Goddard <goddardb  2008-03-09 20:57:22 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-03-10 12:27:03 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-03-09 16:41:59 
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"gary" <bibl  2008-03-10 17:27:18 
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Bart Goddard <goddardb  2008-03-11 07:42:55 
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"gary" <bibl  2008-03-11 18:32:15 
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Bart Goddard <goddardb  2008-03-11 20:40:30 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-03-11 14:17:13 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-01-01 00:20:55 
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Bart Goddard <goddardb  2008-01-02 08:56:53 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-01-04 14:54:08 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-27 11:59:36 
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