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Re: God is not a Trinity

by Matthew Johnson <matthew_member@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dec 4, 2007 at 01:25 PM

In article <8CDCA0FE-CBD3-3A51-198C-776907494790@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, gary
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><lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[snip]

>Scripture reads: Ephesians 1:4  "just as He chose us in Him before the 
>foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before
Him 
>in love," (NKJV)

>It does not say that He chose us to be in Him.

This is true, but see below.

>It says that He chose those 
>who were in Him.

And chose them to or for what? I ask this because you seem to assume that
'chose' is used absolutely, without a complement. But despite your chosen
translation, it is _hard_ to construe this in the Greek -- if not
impossible.

No, rather, we are _chosen_ TO BE holy and w/o blame etc. So the
complement is a
complementary infinitive, "to be".

So what has this got to do with the topic of the thread? It means that we
are
not chosen just to believe, nor just because we believe; we are chosen in
Him to
be holy etc. So if we only believe, but are not holy and blameless, then
we are
not the chosen he is talking about in this verse.

I make this point because there are those who sincerely believe that they
are
saying when they say the believe, yet are still resisting this choosing.


-- 
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Subducat se sibi ut haereat Deo
Quidquid boni habet tribuat illi a quo factus est
(Sanctus Aurelius Augustinus, Ser. 96) 


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God is not a Trinity
"dell12345" <  2007-11-20 13:56:11 
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Dave <dave_and_darla@[  2007-11-20 18:41:46 
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checker@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-11-20 21:23:20 
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"dell12345" <  2007-11-23 21:37:36 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-11-24 20:45:48 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-11-20 21:22:48 
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"dell12345" <  2007-11-22 18:27:30 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-11-23 12:49:33 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-11-23 21:37:18 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-11-26 17:34:17 
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=?Windows-1252?Q?Julien_=  2007-12-09 07:43:32 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-09 10:58:47 
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=?Windows-1252?Q?Julien_=  2007-12-09 11:10:39 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-11-21 09:01:48 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-11-25 06:56:41 
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Bart Goddard <goddardb  2007-12-11 20:07:59 
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Sarah Kanary <skanary@  2007-11-24 20:46:02 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-11-25 06:57:32 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-11-25 06:58:01 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-11-29 18:51:00 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-11-30 14:52:34 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-11-30 20:11:08 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-01 20:52:04 
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Bart Goddard <goddardb  2007-12-02 08:10:13 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-03 18:14:47 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-04 13:25:53 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-05 18:18:22 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-06 18:09:01 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-01 20:52:09 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-01 20:51:15 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-03 18:14:36 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-04 13:25:35 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-03 18:14:51 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-04 20:35:12 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-05 18:19:03 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-04 20:35:19 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-05 13:19:05 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-05 13:18:59 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-04 20:35:23 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-05 13:18:37 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-07 07:51:25 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-07 07:51:27 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-11 14:33:36 
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Bart Goddard <goddardb  2007-12-11 20:05:55 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-12 08:23:34 
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Bart Goddard <goddardb  2007-12-14 14:10:02 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-16 17:09:10 
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"steveo" <gn  2007-12-11 20:09:27 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-12 08:23:28 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-05 18:18:28 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-06 08:54:02 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-07 07:51:10 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-06 18:08:46 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-06 18:08:52 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-07 11:14:05 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-07 21:43:21 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-08 18:20:23 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-09 10:58:56 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-10 07:41:49 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-10 11:15:19 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-11 14:34:13 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-12 08:23:53 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-14 09:50:13 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-14 14:10:30 
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Bart Goddard <goddardb  2007-12-14 18:54:21 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-14 18:54:35 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-16 17:09:19 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-17 08:21:59 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-16 17:09:04 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-17 22:03:26 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-14 09:50:18 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-10 21:39:21 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-11 14:34:06 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-11 14:34:10 
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Bart Goddard <goddardb  2007-12-11 20:08:05 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-11 20:09:31 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-12 08:23:49 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-11 20:09:50 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-12 08:23:40 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-11 20:11:02 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-12 08:23:45 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-16 17:09:49 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-12 19:33:01 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-13 15:25:27 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-13 20:00:26 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-12 19:33:05 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-13 20:00:32 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-14 18:54:24 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-16 17:08:57 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-17 22:03:33 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-18 16:44:05 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-23 07:42:57 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-24 22:27:53 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-26 07:36:56 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-27 11:59:33 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-16 17:09:29 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-16 17:09:35 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-16 17:12:23 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-14 18:54:32 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-16 17:09:58 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-17 22:03:19 
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"Miguel" <re  2007-12-18 16:44:18 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-20 11:01:01 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-18 16:44:50 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-21 16:31:02 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-21 20:28:18 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-27 13:18:35 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-23 07:42:20 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-26 07:36:42 
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Bart Goddard <goddardb  2007-12-27 11:59:09 
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"gary" <bibl  2007-12-29 21:57:23 
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Bart Goddard <goddardb  2007-12-31 07:25:18 
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"gary" <bibl  2008-03-10 17:26:49 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-03-10 15:26:00 
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"gary" <bibl  2008-03-10 17:26:57 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-03-09 16:39:31 
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wrf3@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-03-09 20:57:42 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-03-11 14:17:27 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-03-15 16:02:38 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-02-03 22:57:13 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-02-08 07:34:39 
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"gary" <bibl  2008-02-01 07:10:56 
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"gary" <bibl  2008-03-07 22:40:25 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-01-03 13:18:55 
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Bart Goddard <goddardb  2008-01-04 14:54:35 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-01-05 19:54:45 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-29 21:58:23 
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Bart Goddard <goddardb  2007-12-31 07:25:37 
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"gary" <bibl  2008-03-07 22:40:46 
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"gary" <bibl  2008-03-09 10:40:21 
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Bart Goddard <goddardb  2008-03-09 20:57:22 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-03-10 12:27:03 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-03-09 16:41:59 
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"gary" <bibl  2008-03-10 17:27:18 
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"gary" <bibl  2008-03-11 18:32:15 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-03-11 14:17:13 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-01-01 00:20:55 
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Bart Goddard <goddardb  2008-01-02 08:56:53 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-01-04 14:54:08 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2007-12-27 11:59:36 
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