>"Gary McNees" <gkmcnees@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>Re: God knows your future. ...But does he?
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>"Bart Goddard" <goddardb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> Matthew Johnson <Matthew_member@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>> God is like a weather forecaster - he watches clouds and
>>>>> wind, and knows what the weather the following day or
>>>>> week will be. He just knows it, he doesn't predestinate it.
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>>>>This fails because we don't just attribute to God omniscience,
>>>>but also omnipotence.
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>>> We do, of course, but that does not cause it to 'fail'. Omnipotence
>>> means He _can_ do anything (except, as Thomas Aquinas pointed out,
>>> achieve contradiction), it does not say He _does_ do everything.
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>> "Omnipotent" really means "All" powerful, and we take this to
>> mean that God does "all".
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>No, You take it to mean that God does all. But what do you do about His
>statements that He doesn't do all? I think your problem is that you don't
>have the categories perhaps to differentiate between these things. God is
>the ULTIMATE or REMOTE cause of all things, true. But He is NOT the
>efficient or immediate cause of all things.
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>As you state below, God sustains the universe, hence without His
upholding
>by His word, everything would cease to exist, including Satan, and every
>particle.
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>But we must make these differentiations or else get contradictions to
>Scripture. For example, we read, James 1:13 Let no one say when he is
>tempted, "I am tempted by God"; for God cannot be tempted by evil, nor
does
>He Himself tempt anyone.
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>It seems to me, that in this passage God differentiates between Himself
>doing a thing from Him giving the power to a creature to do the very same
>thing. God does not tempt at all, but certainly He maintains the
existence
>of creatures who do tempt.
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>> Without His continual attention, each
>> particle in the universe would cease to exist.
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>Gary www.faithalone.org
Gary,
The Bible clearly tells us that God does not ALWAYS know all things.
Some time God chooses not to know certain things for whatever His
reasons. For example Ge 18:20,21,
"Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so
great and their sin so grievous 21 that I will go down and see if what
they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I
will know."" (NIV)
Clearly, God did not know the full scope of the goings on in Sodom and
Gomorrah at that time, except what He had heard. So He was going to
"go down" and find out the facts for Himself, then, He said, "I will
know".
Thus genuine wor****ppers of God accept His written word, the Holy
Bible, as "truth" (Joh 17:17), and let it decide their religious
doctrines.
Sincerely, James
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