In article <E94D2E03-81EF-5D3A-DD2F-25F6106C896D@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Ethan
Metsger
says...
>
>On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 18:45:51 -0400, gary <biblicist@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>> But don't you see in Romans seven (and a parallel in Galatians 5) that
>>> when operating in the flesh we *must* choose against our preferences?
I
>>> really don't want to sin, but I do.
>>
>> Not sure I know your position on Rom. 7. I believe that Paul was
>> referring
>> to himself in his regenerate state. Certainly Paul did not ALWAYS do
that
>> which he did not want to do. Every Christian has this experience. We
>> often
>> do that which we know we should not do, but then again, we sometimes do
>> that
>> which we know to be God’s will.
>
>The point, though, is that Paul writes that his will not to sin was
>ineffective in preventing him from actually sinning. In fact, the
>language he uses in the passage is quite strong--he writes that he does
>not even practice (PRASSW) the good that he wants to do, but completely
>does (POIEW) the sin he would not.
You seem to think that POIEW implies "completely do", but PRASSW
'practice'. But
if this is so, then why does he use each verb with each of 'sin' and 'do
good'?
Recall:
OU GAR hO QELW POIW AGAQON, ALL' hO OU QELW KAKON TOUTO PRASSW (rom 7:19)
but
O GAR KATERGAZOMAI OU GINWSKW OU GAR O QELW TOUTO PRASSW, ALL' O MISW
TOUTO POIW
(rom 7:15)
So we have PRASSW used in 7:19 to refer to doing evil, but the same doing
evil
is mentioned with POIEW in 7:15. Likewise, PRASSW is used in 7:15 to refer
to
doing good, but in 7:19 for doing evil.
I find this observation hard to reconcile with your distinction between
PRASSW
and POIEW.
>
>In Galatians 5, he writes that the spirit and flesh strive against each
>other so that we _cannot_ do the things we want to do. If the regenerate
>are not free in this respect, why do we expect the unregenerate to be
>_more_ free in this respect?
>
>
>Best,
>
>Ethan
>
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