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Re: The Soul

by Suzanne <sb.gerstner@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 6, 2008 at 06:55 AM

Kent wrote:

> Hi Suzanne, in one way, yes a soul comes from God.  But I believe the
way
> you are talking, you seem to be saying the soul does not originate in
this
> world, that we are not individual souls who enter the next world from
this,
> and that is a viable point of view.  In the sense of this conversation,
that
> is not how we have been  discussing this issue.  I have been talking
about
> passing on, from this world to the next.

Dear Kent,

When you say "that is not how we have been discussing this issue", you
are actually speaking for yourself.  I have never discussed it in any
other way, because that is my understanding.  The unit of Ruhi Book 1
on the life of the spirit starts out with this paragraph which is a
distillation of concepts from the Writings:

"The soul has its origin in the spiritual worlds of God.  It is
exalted above matter and the physical world.  The individual has his
beginning when the soul, coming from these spiritual worlds,
associates itself with the embryo at the time of conception.  But this
association is not material; the soul does not enter or leave the body
and does not occupy physical space.  The soul does not belong to the
material world, and its association with the body is similar to that
of a light in a mirror which reflects it.  The light which appears in
the mirror is not inside it; it comes from an external source.
Similarly, the soul is not inside the body; there is a special
relation****p between it and the body, and together they form a human
being."

This distillation is what I believe from my own reading of the Baha'i
Writings.  This is, and always has been, where I'm coming from with
this.  This basic difference of opinion -- does the soul originate in
this world, or does it come from the world's of God and is a visitor
here -- would shed a very different light on how one views the
subject.

Kent:

> But it seems to me you have had enough of this discussion, I am going to
> take a break from it for a while.

Since you are the one taking a break, I would say it would seem that
you have had enough of this discussion.  I never said that or thought
it.  Have a nice break.

Best wishes,

Suzanne
 




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"Kent Johnson"   2008-04-29 21:21:10 
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"Richard H. Gravelly  2008-04-29 21:57:19 
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"Kent Johnson"   2008-04-30 08:21:12 
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"Kent Johnson"   2008-05-01 21:48:27 
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"Kent Johnson"   2008-05-02 13:27:19 
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"Richard H. Gravelly  2008-05-05 15:07:21 
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"Kent Johnson"   2008-05-06 07:40:34 
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"Susan Maneck"   2008-05-02 12:36:35 
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"Kent Johnson"   2008-05-03 07:46:06 
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"Susan Maneck"   2008-05-02 18:10:49 
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"Kent Johnson"   2008-05-03 07:49:38 
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"Susan Maneck"   2008-05-03 11:17:21 
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"Kent Johnson"   2008-05-03 22:23:11 
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"Kent Johnson"   2008-05-03 22:23:11 
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"Kent Johnson"   2008-05-03 22:30:31 
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"Susan Maneck"   2008-05-03 18:55:11 
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"Susan Maneck"   2008-05-03 23:06:50 
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"Kent Johnson"   2008-05-06 07:42:06 
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"Kent Johnson"   2008-05-06 07:54:05 
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"Kent Johnson"   2008-05-06 11:21:48 
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"Kent Johnson"   2008-05-06 15:10:34 
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"Kent Johnson"   2008-05-06 15:39:52 
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"Kent Johnson"   2008-05-06 20:47:45 
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"Richard H. Gravelly  2008-06-25 22:50:57 
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"Susan Maneck"   2008-05-04 17:18:09 
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"Richard H. Gravelly  2008-05-06 07:03:34 
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"Richard H. Gravelly  2008-05-06 09:00:50 
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"Richard H. Gravelly  2008-05-06 15:42:02 
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"Kent Johnson"   2008-05-07 07:29:54 
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"Richard H. Gravelly  2008-05-07 05:28:17 
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"Kent Johnson"   2008-05-07 08:52:13 
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"Kent Johnson"   2008-05-07 09:10:10 
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"Richard H. Gravelly  2008-05-07 07:52:59 
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"Kent Johnson"   2008-05-07 11:33:36 
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"Kent Johnson"   2008-05-07 16:24:10 
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"Richard H. Gravelly  2008-05-07 14:36:38 
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"Kent Johnson"   2008-05-08 07:00:31 
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"Kent Johnson"   2008-05-08 08:22:49 
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Paul Bartlett <bartlet  2008-05-06 17:18:12 
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"Susan Maneck"   2008-05-06 19:35:17 
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"Kent Johnson"   2008-05-07 15:55:32 
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"Richard H. Gravelly  2008-05-07 04:42:54 
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"Richard H. Gravelly  2008-05-07 07:17:59 
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"Richard H. Gravelly  2008-05-07 04:48:05 
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"Richard H. Gravelly  2008-05-07 07:25:39 
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Suzanne <sb.gerstner@[  2008-05-07 05:37:55 
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Paul Bartlett <bartlet  2008-05-07 15:32:20 
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"Susan Maneck"   2008-05-07 21:59:02 
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"Kent Johnson"   2008-05-09 07:52:34 
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Suzanne <sb.gerstner@[  2008-05-07 22:57:32 
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Paul Bartlett <bartlet  2008-05-08 16:38:43 
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"Susan Maneck"   2008-05-08 15:49:37 
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