Hi Kent:
I have no problem with what you believe. I will just answer your questions
as I see them.
I cannot be sure what causes the spiritual disease of Covenant breaking
but
I expect it is egocentric, sometimes a power struggle i.e. "My
interpretation is better than theirs." or "I should be the next Guardian."
I do not know what the cure is except being able to turn back to the
source.
A few have.
I believe that a disease is a spiritual or physical weakness which need
spiritual or physical remedies. I would consider backbiting, for example,
to
be a spiritual disease which can be contagious, but not as serious as
Covenant Breaking, and more easily countered.
Bill
On 4/23/08 12:31 AM, "Kent Johnson" <kent@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Hi Bill,
>
> It seems to me that if we are to say that being a Covenant Breaker is a
> spiritual disease, but we all have spiritual diseases, what it says is
about
> being a Covenant Breaker is notsomuch.
>
> The larger point is that interpretation of our Writings is not a
> word-for-word exercise. In context I believe the Writings are clear
that
> the "disease" or "poison" that we have labeled "Covenant Breaking" is
not a
> specific "poison" or "disease". The point is that Covenant Breaking is
> *like* a disease that is spiritual, not physical. It is *like* a poison
for
> the soul.
>
> I believe that the Writings are exceedingly clear on this subject since
> there is no specific diagnosis, no other specific disease or poison that
is
> spiritual.
>
> So if Covenant Breaking is a "disease" then what is the cause? What is
the
> cure? If we all have spiritual diseases, what are the causes and cures
of
> them? If we have no spiritual doctors to catalog and diagnose spiritual
> illnesses then these diseases are better viewed as simile until the
catalog
> exists. I believe this was the intent according to my interpretation of
the
> Baha'i Writings on the subject.
>
> Thanks for reading. --Kent
>
> "Bill Hyman" <pcstv@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:LcidnbNiSZukhZLVnZ2dnUVZ_uKpnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Not to me.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>> On 4/22/08 9:44 AM, "Kent Johnson" <kent@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>> Kind of makes Covenant Breaking as a spiritual disease meaningless.
>>>
>>> --Kent
>>>
>>> "Bill Hyman" <pcstv@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>> news:R-6dneBJxs840ZPVnZ2dnUVZ_sKqnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Aren't we all spiritually diseased to some extent? Isn't it more a
>>>> matter
>>>> of
>>>> degree and contagion? No-one I know is perfect. Is that not why unity
is
>>>> emphasized within the Faith? One thing I have learned the hard way as
a
>>>> Baha'i, is that unity is more im****tant than one's opinion that one
is
>>>> right, even should that opinion be correct.
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/22/08 1:28 AM, "Kent Johnson" <kent@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't know, Paul, but according to what we read here one has a
>>>>> "spiritual
>>>>> disease" and the other doesn't.
>>>>>
>>>>> --Kent
>>>>>
>>>>> "Paul Bartlett" <bartlett@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>>> news:aYGdnd7pOLSip5DVnZ2dnUVZ_sytnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>> One thing is not clear to me. What is the difference between a
>>>>>> declaration by the UHJ that one is a Covenant Breaker and an order
>>>>>> from the UHJ to an NSA to involuntarily disenroll an individual?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Paul Bartlett
>>>>>>
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