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Re: Covenant Breakers

by "Susan Maneck" <smaneck@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 20, 2008 at 04:28 PM

But to say that Covenant
> Breaking itself is a specific spiritual disease, I don't think it is.

Dear Kent,

Except that is exactly what Shoghi Effendi indicated:

"...Covenant Breaking is truly a Spiritual disease, and the whole
view-point and attitude of a Covenant Breaker is so poisonous that the
Master likened it to leprosy, and warned the friends to breathe the
same air was dangerous.

	(Compilations, Lights of Guidance, p. 183)

Of course his secretary goes on to add:

This should not be taken literally; He meant when you are close enough
to breathe the same air you are close enough to contact their
corrupting influence.

	(Compilations, Lights of Guidance, p. 183)



>
> It might seem a minor point to you, but I see a difference between
saying
> that becoming a Covenant Breaker is a spiritual disease, and saying that
> those who are Covenant Breakers are afflicted with a spiritual disease,
a
nd
> to me that difference is im****tant.

Yet according to the Guardian our Writings don't make that distinction:

Bah=E1'u'll=E1h and the Master in many places and very emphatically have
told us to shun entirely all Covenant-breakers as they are afflicted
with what we might try and define as a contagious spiritual disease;

	(Compilations, Lights of Guidance, p. 183)

> We all have spiritual diseases, but we are not all Covenant Breakers.

That much is true. But apparently not all spiritual diseases are
contagious like Covenant breaking is.

> >  > Baha'is working in protection (counselors, auxillary board members
a
nd
> > assistants for protection) may be required to contact possible
> > covenant breakers to investigate them for the House.
>
> For what purpose?   That seems a strange proposition.  The Universal
Hous
e
> of Justice might need to contact people they have told everyone to
avoid?

Tom said "possible Covenant breakers." Counsellors and Board Members
are sometimes asked to investigate whether the person in question
truly is a Covenant breaker or there is something else is going on.

warmest, Susan
 




 16 Posts in Topic:
Covenant Breakers
"Kent Johnson"   2008-04-20 14:36:52 
Re: Covenant Breakers
"Kent Johnson"   2008-04-20 14:55:12 
Re: Covenant Breakers
"Susan Maneck"   2008-04-20 16:28:38 
Re: Covenant Breakers
"Kent Johnson"   2008-04-21 07:12:02 
Re: Covenant Breakers
"Susan Maneck"   2008-04-21 09:55:27 
Re: Covenant Breakers
"Kent Johnson"   2008-04-21 12:28:12 
Re: Spiritual Disease (was Tahirih's Letter)
"Susan Maneck"   2008-04-21 20:36:56 
Re: Covenant Breakers
"Susan Maneck"   2008-04-21 11:51:07 
Re: Covenant Breakers
Paul Bartlett <bartlet  2008-04-21 20:20:03 
Re: Covenant Breakers
"Kent Johnson"   2008-04-22 08:28:10 
Re: Covenant Breakers
"Susan Maneck"   2008-04-21 21:40:22 
Re: Covenant Breakers
"Susan Maneck"   2008-04-22 15:00:52 
Re: Covenant Breakers
macleod@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-23 19:21:26 
Re: Covenant Breakers
"Susan Maneck"   2008-04-24 01:17:49 
Re: Covenant Breakers
macleod@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-24 09:26:22 
Re: Covenant Breakers
"Susan Maneck"   2008-04-24 12:04:31 

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