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Re: The Radical Cost Of Following Jesus

by Thom Madura <Tommadura@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 21, 2008 at 05:21 PM

monkfish wrote:
> rogue wrote:
> 
>> On May 21, 11:53 am, "Carl" <sai...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>> Luke 7:50
>>> 50 Jesus said to the woman, "Your faith has saved you; go in peace."
>>>
>>> John 1:12
>>> 12 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>>> gave the right to become children of God
>>>
>>> John 3:14-18
>>> 14 Just as Moses lifted up the s**** in the desert, so the Son of Man
>>> must be lifted up, 15 that everyone who believes in him may have
eternal
>>> life. 16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only
Son,
>>> that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
17
>>> For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but
to
>>> save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not
condemned,
>>> but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has
not
>>> believed in the name of God's one and only Son.
>>>
>>> John 3:36
>>> 36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects
the
>>> Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him."
>>>
>>> John 5:24
>>> 24 "I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who
sent
>>> me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over
from
>>> death to life.
>>>
>>> John 6:28-29
>>> 28 Then they asked him, "What must we do to do the works God
requires?"
>>> 29 Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he
has
>>> sent."
>>>
>>> John 6:35
>>> 35 Then Jesus declared, "I am the bread of life. He who comes to me
will
>>> never go hungry, and he who believes in me will never be thirsty.
>>>
>>> John 6:47
>>> 47 I tell you the truth, he who believes has everlasting life.
>>>
>>> John 7:38
>>> 38 Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, streams of
living
>>> water will flow from within him.
>>>
>>> John 9:35-39
>>> 35 Jesus heard that they had thrown him out, and when he found him, he
>>> said, "Do you believe in the Son of Man?"
>>> 36 "Who is he, sir?" the man asked. "Tell me so that I may believe in
>>> him." 37 Jesus said, "You have now seen him; in fact, he is the one
>>> speaking with you."
>>> 38 Then the man said, "Lord, I believe," and he wor****ped him.
>>> 39 Jesus said, "For judgment I have come into this world, so that the
>>> blind will see and those who see will become blind."
>>>
>>> John 11:25-26
>>> 25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who
>>> believes in me will live, even though he dies; 26 and whoever lives
and
>>> believes in me will never die. Do you believe this?"
>>>
>>> John 11:40
>>> 40 Then Jesus said, "Did I not tell you that if you believed, you
would
>>> see the glory of God?"
>>>
>>> John 12:36
>>> 36 Put your trust in the light while you have it, so that you may
become
>>> sons of light.
>>>
>>> John 20:31
>>> 31 But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the
Christ,
>>> the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.
>>>
>>> Acts 16:29-31
>>> 29 The jailer called for lights, rushed in and fell trembling before
Paul
>>> and Silas. 30 He then brought them out and asked, "Sirs, what must I
do
>>> to be saved?"
>>> 31 They replied, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved -
you
>>> and your household."
>>>
>>> Romans 3:21-26
>>> 21 But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made
known,
>>> to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness from
God
>>> comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no
>>> difference, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
24
>>> and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came
by
>>> Christ Jesus. 25 God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement,
through
>>> faith in his blood. He did this to demonstrate his justice, because in
>>> his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished-
26
>>> he did it to demonstrate his justice at the present time, so as to be
>>> just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.
>>>
>>> May God bless,
>>> Carl
>>> my website --http://www.nettally.com/saints/
>>> my blog --http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
>> JERRY
>> http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/saved.html
>> # Say the right things.
>>
>>     For by thy words thou shalt be justified. -- Matthew 12:37
>>
>> # Do the right things.
>>
>>     And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the
>> resurrection of life. -- John 5:29
>>
>>     For you render to each one according to his works. -- Psalm 62:12
>>
>>     I the Lord ... give every man according to his ways, and according
>> to the fruit of his doings. -- Jeremiah 17:10
>>
>>     When the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness ... and doeth
>> that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul. -- Ezekiel
>> 18:27
>>
>>     For the Son of Man will come in the glory of His Father with His
>> angels, and then He will reward each according to his works. Matthew
>> 16.27
>>
>>     Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye
>> blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the
>> foundation of the world. For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I
>> was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me
>> in: ****d, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in
>> prison, and ye came unto me. -- Matthew 25:34-36
>>
>>     Who will render to each one according to his deeds. ... For not
>> the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of
>> the law will be justified. -- Romans 2:6, 13
>>
>>     For we must all appear before the jugment seat of Christ, that
>> each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he
>> has done, whether good or bad. -- 2 Corinthians 5:10
>>
>>     Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform
>> themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be
>> according to their works. -- 2 Corinthians 11:15
>>
>>     The Father, who without partiality judges according to each one's
>> work. -- 1 Peter 1:17
>>
>>     I will give unto every one of you according to your works. --
>> Revelation 2:23
>>
>>     And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the
>> books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of
>> life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written
>> in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead
>> which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were
>> in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. --
>> Revelation 20:12-13
>>
>> # Believe the right things.
>>
>>     A man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. --
>> Romans 3:28
>>
>>     Therefore, being justified by faith, we have peace with God
>> through our Lord Jesus Christ. -- Romans 5:1
>>
>>     A man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith
>> of Jesus Christ. -- Galatians 2:16
>>
>>     For by grace are ye saved through faith. -- Ephesians 2:8
>>
>> # Do and believe the right things.
>>
>>     Faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. -- James 2:17
>>
>> # Do the will of God.
>>
>>     Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the
>> kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in
>> heaven. -- Matthew 7:21
>>
>> # Believe in Jesus.
>>
>>     Whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting
>> life. -- John 3:16
>>
>>     He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life -- John 3:36
>>
>>     Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved. -- Acts
>> 16:31
>>
>> # Be born again.
>>
>>     Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. --
>> John 3:3
>>
>> # Hear the words of Jesus and believe in whoever sent him.
>>
>>     He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath
>> everlasting life. -- John 5:24
>>
>> # Be born of water and the spirit.
>>
>>     Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter
>> into the kingdom of God. -- John 3:5
>>
>> # Be washed by the Holy Ghost.
>>
>>     Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to
>> his mercy he saved us, by the wa****ng of regeneration, and renewing of
>> the Holy Ghost. -- Titus 3:5
>>
>> # Be converted and become like a little child.
>>
>>     Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall
>> not enter into the kingdom of heaven. -- Matthew 18:3
>>
>> # Believe and be baptized.
>>
>>     He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved. -- Mark 16:16
>>
>> # Call upon the name of the Lord.
>>
>>     Whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. --
>> Acts 2:21
>>
>> # Confess with your mouth "Jesus is Lord" and believe in your heart
>> that God raised him from the dead.
>>
>>     If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt
>> believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou
>> shalt be saved. -- Romans 10:9
>>
>> # Follow the commandments (at least some of them).
>>
>>     If you want to enter into life, keep the commandments. He saith
>> unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not
>> commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false
>> witness, Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy
>> neighbour as thyself. -- Matthew 19:17-19
>>
>>     Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have
>> right to the tree of life. -- Revelation 22:14
>>
>> # Keep the commandments (at least some of them), give all your money
>> to the poor, and follow Jesus.
>>
>>     And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I
>> do to inherit eternal life? ... Thou knowest the commandments, Do not
>> commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness,
>> Honour thy father and thy mother. And he said, All these have I kept
>> from my youth up.
>>     ...thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto
>> the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow
>> me.-- Luke 18:18-22
>>
>> # Keep the commandments and the faith of Jesus.
>>
>>     Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the
>> commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. -- Revelation 14:12
>>
>> # Endure to the end.
>>
>>     He that endureth to the end shall be saved. -- Matthew 10:22,
>> 24:13, Mark 13:13
>>
>> # Wait until you die and then get baptized.
>>
>>     Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the
>> dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead? -- 1
>> Corinthians 15:29
>>
>> # Don't judge other people.
>>
>>     Judge not, and ye shall not be judged. -- Matthew 7:1, Lk.6:37
>>
>> # Have lots of babies.
>>
>>     And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the
>> transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing. --
>> 1 Timothy 2:14-15
>>
>> # Don't defile yourself with women. (Be a virgin male.)
>>
>>     ...the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed
>> from the earth. These are they which were not defiled with women; for
>> they are virgins. -- Revelation 14:3-4
>>
>> # Be given by the Father and come to the Son.
>>
>>     All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that
>> cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. -- John 6:37
>>
>> # Be chosen (predestinated) by God.
>>
>>     For many are called, but few are chosen. -- Matthew 22:14
>>
>>     For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate ... Moreover
>> whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called,
>> them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also
>> glorified.-- Romans 8:29-30
>>
>>     For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good
>> or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand,
>> not of works, but of him that calleth. -- Romans 9:11
>>
>>     He hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that
>> we should be holy and without blame before him in love. Having
>> predestinated us ... according to the good pleasure of his will. --
>> Ephesians 1:4-5
>>
>> # Be poor, not rich.
>>
>>     Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the
>> kingdom of heaven. And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel
>> to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into
>> the kingdom of God. -- Matthew 19:23-24
>>
>>     But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your
>> consolation. -- Luke 6:24
>>
>>     Ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon
>> you. -- James 5:1
>>
>> # Be more righteous than the scribes and Pharisees.
>>
>>     Except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the
>> scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of
>> heaven. -- Matthew 5:20
>>
>> # Eat Jesus' body and blood.
>>
>>     Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye
>> have no life in you. Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood,
>> hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. -- John
>> 6:53-54
>>
>> # Just ask.
>>
>>     Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock,
>> and it shall be opened unto you: For every one that asketh receiveth;
>> and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be
>> opened.-- Matthew 7:7-8
>>
>> # All you need is love.
>>
>>     Love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God. -- 1
>> John 4:7
>>
>>     He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?
>> And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy
>> heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all
>> thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. And he said unto him, Thou
>> hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live. -- Luke 10:26
>>
>> So, you are not saved by grace alone. ;-)  Better get busy on those
>> works, Carl.  I'm sure we can recommend a soup kitchen you can work at
>> helping those less fortunate than you.  Jesus says helping those less
>> fortunate than you is a requirement to be saved, remember?
> 
> 
> By His Grace, you will naturally do all those things.
> You must have missed the "not to worry" part.
> Do try to read the book as a whole, please.
> 
> Just ask.
> 
>     Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock,
> and it shall be opened unto you: For every one that asketh receiveth;
> and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be
> opened.-- Matthew 7:7-8
> 

How about god appearing at next weeks Hillary Clinton speech - she could 
use the help - and it would silence some critics - including me.

I asked - lets see if he comes!
 




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"Carl" <sain  2008-05-21 03:53:04 
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monkfish <monkfish@[EM  2008-05-21 17:02:45 
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