There are some that suffer from a mental malady called denial. The
Kübler-Ross model describes, in five discrete stages, the process by
which people deal with grief and tragedy, especially when diagnosed
with a terminal illness. The model was introduced by Elisabeth
Kübler-Ross in her 1969 book "On Death and Dying". The stages have
become well-known as the "Five Stages of Grief". The stages are:
Denial: "It can't be happening."
Anger: "Why me? It's not fair."
Bargaining: "Just let me live to see my children graduate."
Depression: "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?"
Acceptance: "It's going to be OK."
As a former atheist I can relate to how those who call themselves
atheists (the unsaved ones) are fearful of the certain death that they
face even though I did not go through the five stages myself. I was
just a stupid atheist who had been taught by his father to be one. Oh,
I went through the be mean and poke fun at Christians stage for a
while when I was a kid. But when someone took the time to explain the
good news of Jesus Christ to me even my stuck on stupid mind was able
to figure out that it was better to be safe than sorry. The logic of
the word of God convinced me what I needed to believe and confess.
A court has decided that atheism is a religion. That was a no brainer
because everyone already knew it except maybe those who are true
atheists who do not believe in God because they do not know of God.
Atheist from the Greek atheos formed from the negative particle "a"
(no, not, without) and the noun "theos" (god) means without god; or,
"no god" or "not god". A true atheist does not believe there is a
god. He doesn't need to talk about it. He doesn't need to call
others who do believe there is a god names because he has no belief in
a god.
The mere fact that a person speaks against gods and the followers of
gods is proof that he believes in gods. The person who speaks about
mythical gods would not speak about mythical gods if he did not
believe that mythical gods exist. Nor would he rail on the followers
of gods which he knows do exist if he did not believe that they do
exist. Fake atheists use terms like "sky pixie" and "goat herders"
because they believe in a God and they believe in prophets of that God
that they speak against.
Prophet McCaskey has been quoting Psalms 14:1 and 53:1 quite often
saying that the passages speak against atheists, agnostics, heretics,
mockers of God. But Prophet McCaskey gets things wrong quite a lot in
part because he wor****ps and serves as a prophet for dead false
teachers such as CS Spurgeon a hatemonger who Carl imitates and holds
forth as a speaker of the oracles of God on a regular basis. Prophet
McCaskey, prophet for the dead, embraces some of Surgeon's habits
including hatred for others that do not believe as he did - those he
called false Christians.
A Christian is by definition a disciple of Jesus Christ and disciples
of Jesus Christ are known by the love they have one for another.
Therefore, both Spurgeon and his padawan prophet are not Christians -
they are intolerant arrogant hate mongers who cause division in the
one body of Christ.
Why do I bring up the prophet of the dead in connection with atheists?
Well, because he condemns them for doing exactly what he himself does
and so that those who say they are atheists can compare their behavior
to Carl's and see that they are really nothing more than
fundamentalist religionists like Carl is. They do the same things.
Carl is a hypocrite and so are those who say they are atheists who are
really fundamentalist religionists.
Religion is nothing more than what man does religiously. An alcoholic
or junky are religious in that they do the same thing over and over
again. Fundamentalist religionists are junkies; some for Jesus and
others against Jesus.
Two Greek words are im****tant for Christians to know. The first is
"threskia" the Greek word translated "religion" which has to do with
religious observance, the outward ceremonial service of religion, the
external form like when pretend atheists post against things written
by Christians. It also has to do with the way in which Israel
performed religious service to God by performing the same rituals over
and over again. That's all they could do because they did not have
the spirit of God in them. The Greek word "threskos" is one of the
words translated "religious" usually in a bad sense, superstitious or
as the zealous and diligent performer of the outward service of God.
The other Greek word is "eusebeia"; godliness, the opposite of
religion. Godliness refers to the real, true, vital and spiritual
relation with God enjoyed by the children of God. Godliness was not
possible for Israel because they did not have spirit in them and were
not begotten of God. They were children of God by adoption; not
birth. A true Christian is one who enjoys a spiritual relation****p
with God and those who grow into disciples are known by the love that
they have one for another.
Many who call themselves atheists profess themselves to be former
Christians which is to say that at one time they were saved (and
therefore still are whether they like it or not) but became
disillusioned and reverted to naturalism. Many of those that call
themselves atheists who were saved (and still are saved) were cowards
like the god they chose to wor****p in lieu of God; Charles Darwin.
Darwin was a Christian who reverted to naturalist when things didn't
go the way he wanted them to go. When the going got tough Darwin got
gone and started blaming God for what he did not understand. Darwin
did not become an atheist; he wasn't that stupid in part because the
theories he "came up with" were based on principles from the
scriptures. Today, atheists argue principles from the scriptures to
prove evolution while at the same time denying the accuracy of the
scriptures.
I am not the one to judge that Darwin was a low life coward who ran
from God after throwing a tizzy fit about the death of his daughter.
Had his teachers taught him right doctrine rather than wrong doctrine
he might not have suffered as he did; nor reacted as he did. So it is
with modern atheists who went to churches where false teachers
promoted illogical false doctrines in lieu of truth which confused
them and made them feel foolish for associating with such nut cases.
The way I look at it, those who call themselves atheists who were once
saved and are still saved by speak against God and the people of God;
those people may return to the flock when they get to the point that
the word of God becomes logical to them. That won't happen so easily
so long as false teachers preach from church pulpits.
They way I look at it those who claim to be atheists who speak against
God and the people of God are workers for God because their very
apparent foolishness and their usual obvious misinterpretation of the
scriptures helps genuine believers see the truth of God's word. I
love it when an atheist says something so stupid that a real
Christian's mind sees the insanity of the claim and that helps him
become more fervent in his desire to learn the word of God. I love it
when atheists misquote scriptures and in so doing inspire Christians
to read the word of God. I don't love the consequences that the
atheists earn for themselves; but I do love the knowledge that the
Christian will gain from the atheist's ignorant behavior.
Getting back to the prophet for the dead (Carl) and his deceptive use
of passages of scripture; I feel the need to apologize to unbelievers
for Carl's bad behavior and apparent deceptive use of the scriptures.
Carl doesn't know the scriptures as evidenced by the fact that he
usually gets them wrong and by the fact that he does not write any of
his own material. All he knows to do prophesy for the false teachers
he promotes as gods in lieu of God. Carl has not yet learned to put
away and renouce the hidden things of dishonesty; nor learned how to
walk without being crafty, nor how to refrain from handling the word
of God deceitfully. he has not learned the truth and therefore cannot
by manifestation of the truth commend himself to every man's
co-perspections in the sight of God. He hides the gospel from them
that are lost by posting articles containing false doctrines which
bind and enslave men.
2Co 4:1-6 KJV
1 Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy,
we faint not;
2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in
craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by
manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's
conscience in the sight of God.
3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which
believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is
the image of God, should ****ne unto them.
5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and
ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.
6 For God, who commanded the light to ****ne out of darkness, hath
****ned in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory
of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
As for me, while I may not achieve the goals spoken of in those
verses; I do try and succeed at some of them some of the time.
According to Prophet Carl Psalm 14:1 and Psalm 53:1 apply to atheists
despite the fact that the word "atheist" occurs nowhere in the
scriptures. Carl has develope dthe habit of taking verses he does not
understand and uses them as ineffective weapons against others. The
word of God is sharper than a two edged sword - when it is rightly
divided; not when it is wrongly divided because it is not the word of
God when wrongly divided, just the word of the man that uses it for
deceitful purposes. In Carl's case, to make himself look superior to
others.
Earlier today I wrote the following words about the two Psalms to
Carl:
Begin quote:
Prophet Carl,
Once again you join with CS Spurgeon to do the work of Satan. Since
you speak for Spurgeon you are a dead man's prophet.
Psalm 53:1 was spoken by God through a man of God to Israel:
Heb 1:1 KJV
God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto
the fathers by the prophets,
Heb 1:2 KJV
Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath
appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
God spoke the words of what we call the Old Testament through holy men
of God called prophets. God spoke the words of what we call the New
Testament through His Son, a prophet, who is superior to all other
prophets which were men of God.
2Pe 1:20-21 KJV
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any
private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy
men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
Psa 53:1 KJV
<To the chief Musician upon Mahalath, Maschil, A Psalm of David.> The
fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and
have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.
David was a man of God, a prophet who spoke for God to Israel:
2Ch 8:14 KJV
And he appointed, according to the order of David his father, the
courses of the priests to their service, and the Levites to their
charges, to praise and minister before the priests, as the duty of
every day required: the ****ters also by their courses at every gate:
for so had David the man of God commanded.
Neh 12:24 KJV
And the chief of the Levites: Hashabiah, Sherebiah, and Jeshua the son
of Kadmiel, with their brethren over against them, to praise and to
give thanks, according to the commandment of David the man of God,
ward over against ward.
Neh 12:36 KJV
And his brethren, Shemaiah, and Azarael, Milalai, Gilalai, Maai,
Nethaneel, and Judah, Hanani, with the musical instruments of David
the man of God, and Ezra the scribe before them.
David was speaking for God to Israel about Nabal and natural men
(naturalists) in general. The Hebrew word for fool is Nabal, a dolt,
a fool. The text also applies to men in general, generic man who
behaves as a fool. Not once is "atheist" used in the word of God. Nor
would Psalm 53:1 apply to a true atheist which is merely someone who
does not believe there is a God. It speaks against those who profess
there is no Creator and against the people of God. These would
include those who call themselves atheists but who are really
naturalists who wor****p themselves and the opinions of men as gods.
Carl, a true atheist is one who does not believe in a god; any god of
any kind. The word "atheist" comes from "atheos"; the negative
particle "a" that means no, not, or without and "theos" (God) and
means no god, not god, or without god. An atheist is one that is
without god. If he is without god then he does not talk about God or
God's people. Those who speak against God and against God's people
believe there is a God and that there are God's people; else they
would not talk about them. Those people are religionists and are
usually fundamentalist religionists who often speak and behave like
Osama Bin Laden, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Adolph Hitler and other haters
of Israel. What I am saying is that most people who call themselves
atheists are really suckers who have been suckered into a form of
philosophy (naturalism) which motivates them to speak against the
spiritual. They are too stupid to know any better because they have
been deceived; professing themselves wise they became fools. They are
naturalists (natural men) by choice. Many of them are former church
members who when the going got tough ran like hell from the church
beause they are inherently cowards
1Sa 25:25 KJV
Let not my lord, I pray thee, regard this man of Belial, even Nabal
[Heb nabal] : for as his name is, so is he; Nabal [Heb nabal] is his
name, and folly [Heb nabal] is with him: but I thine handmaid saw not
the young men of my lord, whom thou didst send.
Look at the words in Psalms 53:1 are read all the words; not just the
first few words:
Psa 53:1 KJV
<To the chief Musician upon Mahalath, Maschil, A Psalm of David.> The
fool hath said in his heart, {There is} no God. Corrupt are they, and
have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.
What did the fool say in his heart?
(1) {There is} no Creator (Heb. Elohim, God: The Creator in
relation****p to His creation as its Creator (Gen 1:1))
(2) Corrupt are they.
(3) They have done abominable iniquity.
(4) There is none that doeth good.
The fool (singular) is speaking against God and and they (plural).
What kind of man would deny the Creator? One who has been told there
is a Creator. One cannot deny what he has not heard of. He can only
deny what he has heard of and refused to believe; or, has heard and
believed and then changed his mind.
Consider also Romans 2:18 - 3:3.
Spurgeon is wrong because he says that Psalm 53:1 applies to atheists;
a word not used in the scriptures. The correct and more accurate
word is unbelievers who may be natural men or unbelieving believers.
Psalm 14:1 is similar but not identical to Psalm 53:1. The primitive
text of Pslam 14:1 uses the word Jehovah; not Elohim. This time Nabal
says there is no God in covenant relation****p with Israel and speaks
against Israel.
So, in both cases, David the King of Israel who is also a prophet a
man of God speaks against Nabal a fool who denies that there is a
Creator and denys that Creator has a entered into a covenent
relation****p with Israel. He also speaks against those people that
the Creator has chosen to be His people. Remember, David spoke, but
God gave David the words that were spoken.
If you must be a prophet, learn how to be one for Jesus Christ.
BB
End quote:
Those of you who post to this newsgroup who pretend that atheism is
not a religion ought to stop being mini-Carl's. But what will you be
able to call yourselves if you cannot call yourself true atheists? How
about referring to yourself by your name which represents who you are?
Why do you have to be a member of a religious group? I'm not, and get
along just fine. Spiritually, I am a member of the body of Christ but
in my physical body I am a free man bound to no religion made by man.
I am a Christian skeptic. Maybe you could call yourselves skeptics
which denotes someone a whole lot smarter than an atheist.
BB


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