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Re: Did you "Choose to Believe," or "Choose not to believe"?

by gazelle@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny McCormack) May 14, 2008 at 01:36 AM

In article <6hfk24trbf9u1frd3cjfb49desh6ivvbe6@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
raven1  <quoththeraven@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>On Wed, 14 May 2008 00:34:14 +0000 (UTC),
>gazelle@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
>
>>In article <jk4k245l6pckg0tvnnp45ruo695gac3a9e@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>>raven1  <quoththeraven@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>...
>>>You're putting the cart before the horse. In the absence of any
>>>evidence for something existing, the default position is to withhold
>>>belief in it. Logically, the burden of proof rests with the claimant,
>>>and theists are the ones claiming that god/s exist. Atheists aren't
>>>making a counter-claim, we're simply saying "we don't believe you".
>>
>>Of course.  That's their whole game.  To move the burden of proof from
>>them to you.  Since they reject science and everything it stands for,
>>they don't understand that you can't do this.  That the most basic point
of
>>the scientific method is to assume the null hypothesis.
>
>My first draft of the above post actually referred to the null
>hypothesis, until I realized that the theists the post was directed at
>likely wouldn't have a clue as to what I was talking about.

I'm sure you're right about that.
 




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Fred Stone <fstone69@[  2008-05-17 23:56:15 
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"G-Ride" <gr  2008-05-17 15:10:11 
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Fred Stone <fstone69@[  2008-05-18 02:00:01 
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"G-Ride" <gr  2008-05-17 16:18:56 
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James <bireda@[EMAIL P  2008-05-24 15:13:03 
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"Robibnikoff" &  2008-05-24 16:36:13 
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stoney <stoney@[EMAIL   2008-05-26 13:24:20 
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"Mark K. Bilbo"  2008-05-24 21:07:07 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2008-05-24 21:29:02 
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raven1 <quoththeraven@  2008-05-24 22:39:04 
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Christ's Love <christs  2008-05-25 02:51:08 
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"Mark K. Bilbo"  2008-05-25 09:06:44 
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raven1 <quoththeraven@  2008-05-25 12:09:30 
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stoney <stoney@[EMAIL   2008-05-26 13:26:39 
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"Mark K. Bilbo"  2008-05-26 19:23:05 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2008-05-26 04:38:07 
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raven1 <quoththeraven@  2008-05-26 11:06:52 
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Christopher A. Lee <ca  2008-05-26 11:09:09 
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stoney <stoney@[EMAIL   2008-05-26 13:27:38 
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John Baker <nunya@[EMA  2008-05-26 11:20:21 
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raven1 <quoththeraven@  2008-05-26 12:23:33 
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stoney <stoney@[EMAIL   2008-05-26 13:26:13 
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DanielSan <danielsan19  2008-05-26 13:27:55 
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stoney <stoney@[EMAIL   2008-05-26 13:23:20 
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Christopher A. Lee <ca  2008-05-26 17:07:06 
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stoney <stoney@[EMAIL   2008-06-01 19:56:14 
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hhyapster@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-26 21:54:40 
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stoney <stoney@[EMAIL   2008-06-01 19:30:13 
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