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-- Christian Internet Evangelism: Is It Spiritual Warfare? (DRAFT

by Dolf Boek <dolfboek@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sep 1, 2007 at 04:00 AM

Adolf Hitler had Faith in God that His Agenda was Divinely Ordained. If
Adolf Hitler was an atheist, why did he keep saying that he believed in
God,
had faith in God, and was convinced that he was doing God's work? Adolf
Hitler was not just certain that his attacks on Jews were divinely
mandated,
but also his efforts to clamp down on society by restoring traditional
morality. Christian apologists only seem to claim that Hitler was an
atheist
because they cannot handle the idea that a Christian theist would cause so
much evil in the name of their God.

..JackNote: This #10866, Super: #71 - Know-How as a Disease/ Disease of
Knowledge; I-Ching: H38 - Opposition; Tetra: #6 - Contrariety, Ego: #12 -
Numbing Effect of the Conventional/ Abstaining from Desire; I-Ching: H6 -
Conflict; Tetra: #25 - Contention, Nuance: #63 - Origins in Reversal/
Consider Beginnings; I-Ching: H51 - Thunderclap; Tetra: #62 - Doubt

..Understanding: Male Idea: #236 has 7 Categories: #5, #200, #1, #30 = n.
Hearth of God; n. Mountain of God --- by a pun: burning mountain of God
and
Law; #10, #200, #1, #10, #10, #5 = n. Dread of Yah; #20, #10, #6, #200 = A
basin, pot; a fire-pan; a wash-basin; a platform, pulpit; #40, #6, #90,
#100
= Fused or compact mass; acasting (of metal); #40, #6, #90, #100 =
Narrowness; distress; #40, #90, #6, #100 = Straitness or distress; #40,
#90,
#6, #100 = Column or pillar; cliff or peak; Female Idea: #144 has 0
Categories." [About.com: Quotes from Adolf Hitler Expressing Belief &
Faith
in God, submitted to newsgroups alt.christnet.christianlife,
aus.religion.christian at 1020 hours on 28 August 2007]

And is he possibly in Heaven? We had a long-running debate on this a while
back in these groups, and another poster agreed that a 'death-bed
repentance' would have got him in (just) but asserted that Hitler
didn't...
Makes you wonder about some people's omniscience... Amazing!

..JackNote: This #4285, Super: #26 - Ambiguous Reversals/ Virtue of
Gravity;
I-Ching: H3 - Initial Difficulties; Tetra: #3 - Mired, Ego: #73 -
Employing
Deeming/ Daring to Act; I-Ching: H46 - Moving Upward; Tetra: #7 - Ascent,
Nuance: #22 - Point to Reversal?/ Humility's Increase; I-Ching: H8 -
Seeking
Unity; Tetra: #34 - Kin****p

..Understanding: Male Idea: #84 has 0 Categories. Female Idea: #184 has 0
Categories. " [Pastor Rowland Croucher, 1110 hours 29 August 2007]

Actually, I would say it's not likely that Hitler is in heaven IF you
believe in Judgment Day and Hell as a sentence deserved and earned by
one's
earthly deeds. If you believe that ALL will be saved through Jesus, then
there's no guess. The bible itself isn't clear about judgement. In fact,
I've grown so suspicious of anything the biblical authors teach other than
the simple salvation message because there are so many errors,
contradictions, inconsistencies and absurdities within it's pages. If one
wanted to argue, one could say that Hitler repented and was so depressed
regarding his life, he killed himself and thus may be award some
compassion
from a Judgment Day God.

..JackNote: This #10278, Super: #63 - Origins in Reversal/ Consider
Beginnings; I-Ching: H51 - Thunderclap; Tetra: #62 - Doubt, Ego: #72 -
Self-Love/ Holding Oneself Dear; I-Ching: H39 - Obstacles; Tetra: #79 -
Difficulties, Nuance: #40 - Reversal/ Avoiding Activity; I-Ching: H36 -
Sinking Light; Tetra: #68 - Dimming

..Understanding: Male Idea: #210 has 0 Categories. Female Idea: #283 has
10
Categories: #10, #5, #6, #5, #1, #200, #6, #50 = Ark of Jehovah; #3, #80,
#200 = To bind, to be hard, strong; cypress, gopher-tree; #3, #200, #80 =
To
seize, grasp; grapple; #60, #3, #6, #200, #7, #5, #2 = Treasured gold; #7,
#20, #200, #6, #50 = Memorial; record, account; #7, #200, #6, #70 = A
seed;
#50, #200, #3, #30 = n. Crusher, Nergal, a god of the Cuthites thought to
be
representative of the planet Mars; #60, #10, #3, #10, #40, #10, #60, #80 =
Silver of dross (unrefined silver); #70, #7, #6, #200 = n. Helper; #70,
#3,
#30, #10, #40, #70, #10, #50 = n. Calves' Fount, (well in Moab on east
shore
of the Dead Sea); 

However, everything that is written by the eye witnesses say that he
killed
himself to avoid being captured by the Russians and avoiding the
unavoidable
death & ridicule.

..JackNote: This #13810, Super: #79 - Recognizing Agreements/ Keep Your
Obligations; I-Ching: H56 - Wanderer; Tetra: #31 - Packing, Ego: #40 -
Reversal/ Avoiding Activity; I-Ching: H36 - Sinking Light; Tetra: #68 -
Dimming, Nuance: #80 - Primitivist Independence/ Remaining in Isolation;
I-Ching: H16 - Enthusiasm; Tetra: #23 - Ease

..Understanding: Male Idea: #289 has 7 Categories: #1, #8, #10, #200, #70
=
n. Brother is Bad; #1, #80, #200, #8 = The young (of birds); a nestling;
#9,
#80, #200 = To project; to be pointed or sharp; a point, nail; claw, hoof;
#9, #200, #80 = To pluck; to rend, tear in pieces; to be fresh, to sprout
forty; to luxuriate; fresh leaf; prey (of wild beasts); food; #10, #200,
#8,
#40, #1, #30 = n. God Compassionates; #40, #9, #200, #40 = While not yet,
before; #90, #5, #50, #70, #30, #8, #30, #6 = One stripped of the shoe
(dispossessed of property);

Female Idea: #323 has 3 Categories: #1, #2, #10, #300, #10 = n. Father of
Gift; #8, #9, #6, #300 = n. Warrior; #60, #200, #3, #10, #50 = n. Plotter
or
Subduer; 

Ultimately, all we have is our faith in God's love to bring us through.

..JackNote: This #5494, Super: #53 - Increasing Evidence/ Gaining Insight;
I-Ching: H13 - Companion****p; Tetra: #53 - Eternity, Ego: #67 - Three
Treasures; I-Ching: H10 - Tread Carefully; Tetra: #48 - Ritual, Nuance:
#66
- Strategic Reversal/ Putting Oneself Behind; I-Ching: H41 - Decrease;
Tetra: #55 - Diminishment

..Understanding: Male Idea: #342 has 3 Categories: #2, #300, #30, #10 =
Because of me; #2, #300, #40 = To smell sweet, be fragrant; balsam tree;
balsam scent; spice, spicery; #40, #200, #2, #1000 = A stall or stable
(for
fattening); 

Female Idea: #390 has 12 Categories: #6, #300, #2, #8, #60, #4, #10 = n.
Kindness is Returned; #10, #70, #10, #300 = n. Gatherer; #10, #70, #300,
#10
= n. Yah Makes; #10, #300, #70, #10 = n. Saving or Salutary; #10, #300,
#80
= To rub off; to make bare or smooth, to polish; to ****ne; #20, #70, #300
=
Anger; vexation; #40, #20, #300, #30 = A stumbling block; an occasion of a
fall or harm; temptation or enticement; #40, #300, #10, #7, #2, #1, #30 =
n.
God is a Deliverer; #10, #50, #40, #200, #10, #40, #40 = Waters of Nimrim;
#50, #40, #300 = To communicate or disclose; #50, #300, #40 = To blow or
breathe; #70, #20, #30 = To wind or coil [Jude 0851 hours 29 August 2007]

There are religious tones in those quotes. Whether it's anything more than
propaganda is another thing. Plenty of religious nuts have committed
atrocities whilst claiming God's sup****t; so there could be some truth in
it.

..JackNote: This #8233, Super: #81 - Making the Essence Clear/ Propounding
the Essential; I-Ching: H11 - Peace; Tetra: #15 - Reach, Ego: #52 - So
What?/ Returning to the Origin; I-Ching: H45 - Congregation; Tetra: #61 -
Embellishment, Nuance: #14 - Metaphysical Issues/ Praising the Mysterious;
I-Ching: H19 - Approaching; Tetra: #9 - Branching Out

..Understanding: Male Idea: #238 has 5 Categories: #1, #20, #7, #200, #10
=
Fierce; cruel; #8, #200, #3 = To burn, to be sharp or stinging; #10, #6,
#10, #200, #10, #2 = n. Yah Pleads; #70, #9, #40, #70, #9, #40 = Little by
little, by degrees; #100, #5, #2, #20, #1, #70, #40 = The valley weeping;

Female Idea: #95 has 0 Categories. [Heather Hornblower <thar@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
(profile created February 2007), 2128 hours 28 August 2007]

"Bringing people to Christ is not a conspiracy. Witnessing to people is
what
Jesus tells his followers to do, and that is to reveal to them exactly
what
state they are born into. They need to know their standing with God, who
requires that they cannot be accepted into Heaven without their sins being
taken away. Life is not a scheme, and people trying to help people are not
part of a conspiracy.

..JackNote: This #4515, Super: #81 - Making the Essence Clear/ Propounding
the Essential; I-Ching: H11 - Peace; Tetra: #15 - Reach, Ego: #60 - Skill
at
Ruling/ How to Maintain One's Place; I-Ching: H15 - Modesty; Tetra: #5 -
Keeping Small, Nuance: #79 - Recognizing Agreements/ Keep Your
Obligations;
I-Ching: H56 - Wanderer; Tetra: #31 - Packing

..Understanding: Male Idea: #270 has 20 Categories: #5, #60, #5, #200 =
The
round bowl; #10, #60, #200 = To bind, to tame; to correct, chastise; #10,
#100, #50, #70, #40 = n. The People's Possession; #30, #10, #40, #80, #90,
#40 = A sma****ng-tool, maul (a particular type only); #20, #50, #200 = To
make a tremulous sound; to trill; #20, #200, #40, #10 = n. Vineyard Man;
#20, #200, #50 = Lyre; #40, #20, #10, #200 = n. Trader, Patron; #40, #20,
#200, #10 = n. Precious; #50, #20, #200 = To know or recognise; to fail to
know, to disown or repudiate; to be known or recognized; to make oneself
strange; to feign or dissemble; to recognize or respect; not to know; to
deny; #50, #20, #200 = To sell or deliver up; #50, #20, #200 =
Strangeness,
foreignness; #50, #20, #200 = Calamity; #60, #10, #200 = A pot; thorn or
briar; fi****ng hook; #60, #50, #60, #50, #10, #40 = Palm branches; #70,
#50,
#100, #10, #40 = A****ites; #70, #200 = A city; #70, #200 = Enemy; #70,
#200
= A caller; #70, #200 = Skin;

Female Idea: #160 has 0 Categories.

Telling people about Jesus is NOT a dumbing down process of the followers
of
Chist.

..JackNote: This #5069, Super: #77 - Natural Guide/ Heaven's Reason;
I-Ching:
H12 - Stagnation; Tetra: #57 - Guardedness, Ego: #47 - Ignorant Guides/
Viewing the Distant; I-Ching: H43 - Resolution; Tetra: #30 - Bold
Resolution, Nuance: #45 - Extremes and Reversals/ Greatest Virtue;
I-Ching:
H49 - Revolution; Tetra: #28 - Change

..Understanding: Male Idea: #347 has 4 Categories: #1, #80, #200, #10, #6,
#50 = Litter, palanquin; #300, #2, #40, #5 = n. Fragrance of a city in
Reuben; #40, #7, #200, #100 = A sprinkler or basin (for sacrificial use);
a
wine bowl; #2, #40, #90, #6, #200, #2, #6, #1 = To enter into the siege,
to
become invested or blockaded;

Female Idea: #207 has 0 Categories." [Suzanne, 0758 hours 1 September
2007]

The conspiracy...? You were part of the conspiracy crew?---please explain.
And you think telling people what was in the Bible would scare them away?
As
the"Preacher of Bourbon Street" put it, "Where are you going to scare them
off to? Hell number 2?"

If you prefer to have your brain-washed, I will not stop you! That is your
privilege! Enjoy! and Smile!

..JackNote: This #3357, Super: #22 - Point to Reversal?/ Humility's
Increase;
I-Ching: H8 - Seeking Unity; Tetra: #34 - Kin****p, Ego: #36 - Natural
Reversals/ 'Secret' Explanation; I-Ching: H4 - Youthful Inexperience;
Tetra:
#12 - Youthfulness, Nuance: #71 - Know-How as a Disease/ Disease of
Knowledge; I-Ching: H38 - Opposition; Tetra: #6 - Contrariety

..Understanding: Male Idea: #95 has 0 Categories.

Female Idea: #233 has 11 Categories: #1, #7, #20, #200, #5 = A remembrance
offering (sacrificial term); memorial (before God); incense; #2, #20, #6,
#200, #5 = First-born; seniority, birth-right; #2, #20, #6, #200, #5 =
Best
figs; #2, #20, #6, #200, #5 = Early fig; #3, #200, #30 = To roll; a pebble
(used as a lot); to be rough, sharp; a lot; to cast lots; allotment, an
inheritance; #7, #20, #6, #200 = Males; n. Mindful; #10, #100, #2, #90,
#1,
#30 = n. God Gathers; #10, #200, #10, #8, #5 = n. Odiferous or Balmy; #20,
#200, #6, #7 = A herald; #40, #30, #8, #40, #5, #70, #40 = Troops; #50,
#3,
#50, #10, #40, #70, #10 = n. Garden's Fount, Well in the plain of Judah;
[Suzanne <****loh7@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, 1032 hours 31 August 2007]

Here you are again with your non-agenda agenda again! What happened to all
that business about the concepts of man being unnecessary to interpret and
understand the Scriptures. Weren't you the one who was going to write an
easy reading guide to prophecy that would answer all of our questions? Of
course you did not have an agenda of your own back then! What, was that
only
a week ago? And you already forgot, or you got your book done already?

..JackNote: This #6088, Super: #20 - Left without Language/ Different From
the Vulgar; I-Ching: H33 - Withdrawal; Tetra: #50 - Vastness/Wasting, Ego:
#13 - Status/ Loathing Shame; I-Ching: H5 - Delay; Tetra: #17 - Holding
Back, Nuance: #3 - Prescriptions for Politics/ Keeping the People Quiet;
I-Ching: H46 - Moving Upward; Tetra: #8 - Opposition

..Understanding: Male Idea: #264 has 10 Categories: #3, #40, #200, #10,
#5,
#6 = n. Yah Completes; #8, #6, #200, #50 = n. Cavernous; #8, #10, #200,
#6,
#40 = n. Noble, Hiram (king of Tyre); #8, #200, #6, #50 = Glow, heat;
anger;
a dry faggot; n. Hollow-place; #10, #8, #40, #6, #200 = A deer, stag,
buck;
#10, #200, #4, #50 = n. Descending, the river Jordan; #40, #200, #4, #20 =
n. Warlike --- the Babylonian deity Marduk; #50, #8, #6, #200 = n.
Snorting;
#60, #4, #200 = To arrange or put in order, to set in a row; #60, #200, #4
=
To fear or tremble;

Female Idea: #327 has 5 Categories: #7, #200, #70, #50 = Seed herbs;
pulse,
vegetables; #20, #2, #300, #5 = An ewe lamb; sheep; #20, #300, #2, #5 = A
she-lamb; #40, #50, #7, #200, #10, #20 = Crowned ones, princes; #70, #2,
#200, #50, #5 = n. Passage; [Gatekeeper: gatekeeper.eastgate@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 hours 17 August 2007]

You are using what I call "buzz words," such as "fundamentalist" (the way
that you use it), and "brainwa****ng," in connection with fundamentalists.
All that a fundamentalist is, is someone that believes the Bible tells the
truth about things that really took place, or shall take place on the
earth,
as they are advanced in the Bible. Telling people what is in the Bible
when
their own Bibles may be collectind dust because they are not reading them
is
not exactly brainwa****ng people. It's trying to wake them up to read what
it
says.

In fact, some will go to the Bible just to prove people wrong, and find
out
they are telling them the truth, then they will think about what they have
been brainwashed about.

Lord, please keep brainwa****ng the people with your word. And, Lord, what
are some of these critics going to say when they find out that you are a
fundamentalist and really believe what words you wanted us to read and be
sanctified and guided by?

..JackNote: This #14853, Super: #9 - Inconstancy of Achievement/
Practising
Placidity; I-Ching: H7 - Army; Tetra: #32 - Legion, Ego: #30 - Government
without Coercion/ Be Chary of War; I-Ching: H45 - Congregation; Tetra: #59
-
Massing, Nuance: #50 - Fantasies of Avoiding Death/ Estimation of Life;
I-Ching: H2 - Passive Principle/Earth; Tetra: #77 - Compliance

..Understanding: Male Idea: #474 has 7 Categories: #4, #70, #400 = A
knowing,
knowledge; perception, intelligence; Da'at, the latent sephira on the Tree
of Life; #8, #20, #40, #6, #400 = Wisdom, variation on the name of the 2nd
Sephira #8 #20 #40 #5 = #73; #8, #60, #6, #400 = Refuge; #60, #6, #60,
#10,
#40, #8, #90, #200 = Village of horses; #10, #5, #6, #5, #40, #1, #5, #2,
#400 = Because Yahweh loved; #70, #4, #400 = A witnessing or testimony; an
ordinance or precept (God's); to law (especially the ten commandments);
style or spirit (of a psalm); #70, #400, #4 = To be set or prepared.; to
make ready; 

Female Idea: #455 has 3 Categories: #3, #50, #2, #400 = n. Theft; #5, #10,
#10, #400 = Sighing; #10, #400, #40, #5 = n. Orphanhood; " [Suzanne
<****loh7@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, 00:32:51 31 August 2007 , Organization: SBC
http://yahoo.sbc.com]

That Suzanne claims a Divine Imperative: "Jude, I was not meaning to be
critical of you when I clicked on this post and replied to it. My
intentions
were just to bring forth what thoughts that I had which were coming in
through the Holy Spirit about the issues
you all are discussing." [Suzanne 0913 hours 31 August 2007] And from
their
profile appear to be a participant within a closed Yahoo Group known as
SBC
which utilises the Yahoo site as the official e-mail service of the
Scholastics and Brothers' Circle (SBC) of the Society of Jesus - East
Asian
and Oceanian Assistancy! This e-group listing hopes to facilitate
sustained
interaction among the Jesuit participants of the meeting as well as to
reach
out to other Jesuit scholastics and brothers-in-formation all over the
assistancy. Members are highly encouraged to keep the circle updated of
the
many happenings in their respective provinces and regions.

I was so certain that these individuals are engaging in Internet based
identity misrepresentation as the basis for Christian evangelism, by the
participation within a cabal {ie. in this instance Jesuit participation
with
Southern Baptists} for the purposes of spiritual warfare through the
engaging in ***ual racialism as aspirational obscurant fideism. That I
asked
whether the internet identities 家ndy pulpitfire@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 and 'randy'
rkluth@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 the same evangelical Christian and What is their Real
Plan?

Randy on that occasion in a discussion thread "Is This What We're Showing'
speaks on an approach to Internet Evangelism as thier words being
inconsistent with their actions. And that the participants within the
discussion are more interested in damning people who don't agree with them
than in winning them to Christ in love--Arguing for truth as not always an
act of love: "In all honesty, you seem like two people. On the one hand,
you
often begin with all kinds of loving intentions. And then suddenly, you're
another person, accusing them and pressuring them to agree with you or be
condemned as a sinner." ['randy' rkluth@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 1647 hours 10 July
2007]

An individual indentified as ' 家ndy' whose newsgroup posting profile
associated with www.pulpitfire.org commences June 2006) responded,
"Correct.
His consistent, hypocritical, twofold approach, is to first attack, twist,
and force feed you a false version of what your own motives and intentions
are, ****traying you as a vain egomaniac who needs to be brought down. He
calls this "just telling the truth". But then, the minute anyone makes the
slightest unfavorable remark about him, he throws himself on the ground,
acting like a victim who's just been "attacked", asking "where's the
love?"
He does this constantly." ['家ndy' pulpitfire@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 2219 hours 10
July
2007]

"Not probable that they are the same person.

..JackNote: This #2722, Super: #2 - Contrast of Terms/ Self-Culture;
I-Ching:
H11 - Peace; Tetra: #16 - Contact, Ego: #49 - Sage's Constancy/ Trust in
Virtue; I-Ching: H3 - Initial Difficulties; Tetra: #4 - Barrier, Nuance:
#49
- Sage's Constancy/ Trust in Virtue; I-Ching: H3 - Initial Difficulties;
Tetra: #4 - Barrier

..Understanding: Male Idea: #2 has 0 Categories. Female Idea: #49 has 0
Categories. 

Their styles are altogether different, their stances on certain issues are
different and they respond to different posts, one has me blocks and the
other doesn't, their posting hosts are not the same either.

..JackNote: This #11252, Super: #48 - Forgetting/ Forgetting Knowledge;
I-Ching: H35 - Progress; Tetra: #20 - Advance, Ego: #74 - Controlling
Feelings/ Overcome Delusion; I-Ching: H39 - Obstacles; Tetra: #80 -
Labouring, Nuance: #42 - Generating Things/ Reason's Modifications;
I-Ching:
H60 - Restraint; Tetra: #52 - Measure

..Understanding: Male Idea: #50 has 0 Categories.Female Idea: #123 has 0
Categories." [Jude Jude <Cajun@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 2328 hours 31 August 2007]

Randy reinforces this treasonable view with respect to Internet based
identity misrepresentation and secretive e***enical collaboration between
Southern Baptists and Roman Catholic adherents as the basis for Christian
evangelism at 0336 hours on 1 September 2007 with an emphatic "NO",
immediately after discussing the ethical merits of a fictional writer such
as Hal Lindsay: "I wouldn't have said what I said if I "knew it."

..JackNote: This #3321, Super: #64 - Dealing with the Small/ Mind the
Insignificant; I-Ching: H52 - Inaction; Tetra: #71 - Stoppage, Ego: #81 -
Making the Essence Clear/ Propounding the Essential; I-Ching: H11 - Peace;
Tetra: #15 - Reach, Nuance: #81 - Making the Essence Clear/ Propounding
the
Essential; I-Ching: H11 - Peace; Tetra: #15 - Reach

..Understanding: Male Idea: #64 has 0 Categories. Female Idea: #81 has 0
Categories. 

I stand by what I said, and it's true...and *you* know it!

..JackNote: This #4811, Super: #30 - Government without Coercion/ Be Chary
of
War; I-Ching: H45 - Congregation; Tetra: #59 - Massing, Ego: #32 - Natural
Guide/ Virtue of Holiness; I-Ching: H44 - Coming On; Tetra: #43 -
Encounters, Nuance: #32 - Natural Guide/ Virtue of Holiness; I-Ching: H44
-
Coming On; Tetra: #43 - Encounters

..Understanding: Male Idea: #94 has 0 Categories. Female Idea: #113 has 0
Categories. 

There are many people who are involved in our lives, in what we say and
do,
and we don't naturally give them credit unless specifically asked about
it.

..JackNote: This #12017, Super: #4 - Using Guidance/ Sourceless; I-Ching:
H27
- Nourishment; Tetra: #81 - Fostering, Ego: #29 - Deeming/ Non-Assertion;
I-Ching: H36 - Sinking Light; Tetra: #67 - Darkening, Nuance: #61 -
Virtuosity at Using 'Beneath'/ Virtue of Humility; I-Ching: H64 - Before
Completion; Tetra: #78 - On the Verge

..Understanding: Male Idea: #98 has 0 Categories. Female Idea: #142 has 10
Categories: #1, #30, #10, #100, #1 = n. God Loathes; #1, #90, #30, #10,
#5,
#6 = n. Yah Has Selected; #2, #30, #10, #70, #30 = Worthlessness,
wickedness; destruction; destroyer; #2, #20, #70, #40 = n. Destroyer;
Ballam; #8, #4, #100, #30 = n. Sharp, swift Flowing, the river Tigris;
#10,
#20, #6, #50, #50, #6 = He fa****oned us; #40, #6, #90, #1, #5 =
Out-goings,
descents or lineages; privies or sewers; #50, #90, #2 = To be set over; to
set oneself, to take one's stand; to be set up or stand up (said of men,
sheaves, waters), to be firm or healthy; #50, #90, #2 = Handle or haft (of
a
tanged blade); an officer or prefect; #70, #7, #50, #10, #5 = A species of
eagle; 

For example, I don't give credit to my father and mother for giving me
birth
every time I accomplish something in life.

..JackNote: This #7097, Super: #32 - Natural Guide/ Virtue of Holiness;
I-Ching: H44 - Coming On; Tetra: #43 - Encounters, Ego: #50 - Fantasies of
Avoiding Death/ Estimation of Life; I-Ching: H2 - Passive Principle/Earth;
Tetra: #77 - Compliance, Nuance: #30 - Government without Coercion/ Be
Chary
of War; I-Ching: H45 - Congregation; Tetra: #59 - Massing

..Understanding: Male Idea: #130 has 0 Categories. Female Idea: #192 has 0
Categories. 

But ultimately, I will give them some credit.

..JackNote: This #3785, Super: #63 - Origins in Reversal/ Consider
Beginnings; I-Ching: H51 - Thunderclap; Tetra: #62 - Doubt, Ego: #59 - A
Sensible Guide/ Hold Fast To Reason; I-Ching: H42 - Increase; Tetra: #13 -
Increase, Nuance: #8 - Worth of Water/ Easy By Nature; I-Ching: H48 -
Well;
Tetra: #40 - Law/Model

..Understanding: Male Idea: #193 has 0 Categories. Female Idea: #251 has
20
Categories: #1, #4, #6, #200, #40 = n. The Lord is Exalted; #1, #30, #90,
#80, #50 = n. God Hides; #1, #40, #10, #200 = High; mountain top; tree
top;
#1, #40, #200, #10 = n. Mountaineer, Highlander, Amorite; #1, #40, #200,
#10
= n. Eloquent; #1, #200, #40, #10 = In Aramean or Syriac (ie. in that
language); #1, #200, #40, #10 = Aramean, Syrian; #1, #200, #50 = To be
sharp-eared, alert; wild goat; #1, #200, #50 = To trill, to make a
tremulous
noise; #1, #200, #50 = Ark; #1, #200, #50 = Pine; #10, #200, #10, #1, #30
=
n. Founded of God; #40, #6, #200, #5 = A razor; #40, #6, #200, #5 =
Teaching, instruction; #40, #6, #200, #5 = An archer; a teacher; n.
Archer;
#40, #6, #200, #5 = Razor; #40, #200, #10, #1 = Fatling or fat beast; a
fatted calf; #50, #1, #200 = To feel abhorrence; to abhor; #60, #6, #40,
#80, #50, #10, #5 = Double pipe, bagpipe; #40, #100, #5, #1, #20, #5, #70
=
Terebinth valley (near Bethlehem).;

Same thing with a "scribe," or "ghostwriter."

..JackNote: This #2766, Super: #4 - Using Guidance/ Sourceless; I-Ching:
H27
- Nourishment; Tetra: #81 - Fostering, Ego: #12 - Numbing Effect of the
Conventional/ Abstaining from Desire; I-Ching: H6 - Conflict; Tetra: #25 -
Contention, Nuance: #20 - Left without Language/ Different From the
Vulgar;
I-Ching: H33 - Withdrawal; Tetra: #50 - Vastness/Wasting

..Understanding: Male Idea: #197 has 2 Categories: #100, #90, #2, #5 =
Decision; definition; limit, definite scope; #70, #40, #50, #6, #1, #30 =
n.
God With Us, Immanuel --- in Greek
Epsilon-mu-mu-alpha-nu-omicron-upsilon-eta-lambda (#644);

Female Idea: #263 has 6 Categories: #1, #2, #10, #50, #200 = n. Father is
Light; #3, #200, #60 = To break or crush; #5, #80, #50, #10, #40, #30, #8,
#40 = The shew-bread; #10, #40, #90, #8, #8, #7, #100 = Firm of front,
impudent; #50, #8, #200, #5 = Snorting; #60, #3, #200 = To cut off or
separate; to shut up, keep close; to close;

If all the person does is look through a newspaper article and correct it
for errors and give the article some "flourish," there is little need to
give credit to the ghostwriter.

..JackNote: This #9845, Super: #57 - Laissez Faire Politics/ Simplicity In
Habits; I-Ching: H37 - Family; Tetra: #39 - Residence, Ego: #44 - Moderate
Values/ Setting Up Precepts; I-Ching: H1 - Creative Principle/Heaven;
Tetra:
#36 - Strength, Nuance: #64 - Dealing with the Small/ Mind the
Insignificant; I-Ching: H52 - Inaction; Tetra: #71 - Stoppage

..Understanding: Male Idea: #254 has 11 Categories: #8, #6, #200, #40 = n.
Noble Born; #8, #40, #6, #200 = Ass; a heap or load; #40, #3, #6, #200, #5
=
Fear; a storehouse; #40, #8, #200, #1, #5 = A sink or privy; #40, #9, #5,
#200 = Splendour; #40, #9, #200, #5 = A keep, dungeon; aim or mark (in
shooting); #40, #200, #6, #8 = Bruised or crushed; #50, #4, #200 = To
bind,
to set fast, to vow; #50, #4, #200 = To fall or drop out (as grain in
thre****ng); #50, #4, #200 = A vow; a votive-offering; #50, #200, #4 =
Nard,
spikenard; 

Female Idea: #307 has 8 Categories: #1, #6, #300 = To be strong or manly,
to
sup****t; #1, #100, #200, #1, #5 = To cry out; proclaim; summon; read
aloud;
name; to happen upon; #1, #200, #50, #6, #50 = Noisy or murmuring; #2,
#100,
#200, #5 = A searching or inspection; #3, #4, #300 = To heap up; #7, #200,
#100 = To scatter, to sprinkle,. to dust; #9, #2, #200, #40, #6, #50 = n.
Good is Rimmon; #10, #1, #40, #10, #50, #6, #30, #40, #70, #50 = In order
that they may believe;

But if someone asks the author where he/she got such literary flair,
proper
credit needs to be given.

..JackNote: This #6201, Super: #70 - Difficulty in Knowing How/ Difficult
to
Understand; I-Ching: H53 - Gradual Progress; Tetra: #14 - Penetration,
Ego:
#45 - Extremes and Reversals/ Greatest Virtue; I-Ching: H49 - Revolution;
Tetra: #28 - Change, Nuance: #28 - Opposites and Primitivism/ Returning to
Simplicity; I-Ching: H24 - Turning Point; Tetra: #2 - Full Circle

..Understanding: Male Idea: #324 has 4 Categories: #8, #6, #300, #10 = n.
Hasty; #8, #60, #200, #6, #50 = Want, deficiency; #20, #300, #4 = To cut
in;
to encroach; n. Encroacher; #40, #200, #4, #80 = Persecution;

Female Idea: #352 has 10 Categories: #1, #300, #10, #40, #1 = n. High,
Celestial (name of a god); #2, #200, #100, #50 = Crushers, threshers;
t*****
plants; #2, #300, #50 = To be expanded, level; disgrace; #10, #2, #300,
#40
= n. Fragrant; #40, #7, #200, #100, #5 = Sacrificial bowl; #2, #30, #1,
#4,
#50 = n. Moerodach is stout-hearted --- of a king of Babylon; #40, #200,
#14, #20 = n. Contumacy to Baal --- name of a son of Jonathan; #10, #2,
#70,
#30, #40, #200 = Desolation or ruin (place of ruins); #40, #300, #6, #1,
#5
= To blow or breathe; #50, #300, #2 = In my clouding clouds;

In the present case, there seems to be some evidence that Lindsey actually
shared ideas with this particular ghostwriter.

..JackNote: This #8408, Super: #13 - Status/ Loathing Shame; I-Ching: H5 -
Delay; Tetra: #17 - Holding Back, Ego: #65 - Unlearned Virtuosity/ Virtue
of
Simplicity; I-Ching: H20 - Contemplation; Tetra: #63 - Watch, Nuance: #12
-
Numbing Effect of the Conventional/ Abstaining from Desire; I-Ching: H6 -
Conflict; Tetra: #25 - Contention

..Understanding: Male Idea: #337 has 4 Categories: #1, #30, #6, #300 = n.
Wild Beast's Lair; #1, #30, #10, #90, #6, #200 = n. God is Rock; #10, #6,
#300, #6, #10, #5 = n. Yah presents; #40, #2, #90, #200, #5 =
Fortification,
citadel; 

Female Idea: #417 has 9 Categories: #1, #6, #4, #6, #400 = Plural of #4 #1
=
(#5); turnings or surroundings; cir***stances or causes; account of;
(#411);
#1, #30, #10, #300, #6, #70 = n. God is Salvation; #1, #400, #10, #6 =
Thou;
#2, #400, #10, #5 = n. Daughter of Yah; #7, #10, #400 = ****ning;
brightness;
olive tree; the olive; #8, #2, #200, #2, #200, #5 = Stripes, streaks (of a
tiger); #8, #9, #400 = Sinfulness; sinner; idol; sin offering; punishment
of
sin; #50, #2, #20, #4, #50, #1, #90, #200 = n. Nebo Prince of the Gods or
Nebo the God of Fire, (Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon); #50, #2, #6,
#300,
#7, #2, #50 = n. Adherent of Nebo (a chief eunuch of Nebuchadnezzar);

Perhaps that's why Lindsey, when asked, finally decided to giver her
credit.

..JackNote: This #5697, Super: #44 - Moderate Values/ Setting Up Precepts;
I-Ching: H1 - Creative Principle/Heaven; Tetra: #36 - Strength, Ego: #27 -
Paradoxes of the Greatest Skill/ Function of Skill; I-Ching: H21 - Biting
Through; Tetra: #74 - Closure, Nuance: #39 - Achieving Oneness/ Root of
Order; I-Ching: H28 - Excess; Tetra: #76 - Aggravation

..Understanding: Male Idea: #381 has 7 Categories: #1, #300, #80 = To use
magic; #1, #300, #80 = Magician, enchanter; #5, #6, #300, #70 = n.
Deliverance, --- earlier name of Joshua; #40, #10, #300, #1, #30 = n. Who
is
What God is?; #40, #100, #50, #5, #40, #100, #6, #40 = Pasture country;
#5,
#2, #100, #200, #70, #4 = Until the morning (exclusive); #70, #300, #5, #6
=
His maker; 

Female Idea: #444 has 4 Categories: #4, #30, #10, #400 = Branches, boughs;
From H1802 - properly to dangle, that is, to let down a bucket (for
drawing
out water); figuratively to deliver: draw (out), enough, lift up; #4, #40,
#300, #100 = To be active, quick; n. Activity, H1834 - Damascus; damask.
(Damascus: a sack full of blood; the similitude of burning; #8, #400, #6,
#30 = H2848 - Swathed, that is, a bandage; roller; #40, #100, #4, #300 =
H4719: Makkedah (herding / fold) + H6944: + Qodesh - A holy thing; a holy
place, sanctuary; the temple; an asylum;

I continue to think it was legitimate, and I think Lindsey properly
responded to his critics by ultimately giving her credit.

..JackNote: This #9205, Super: #80 - Primitivist Independence/ Remaining
in
Isolation; I-Ching: H16 - Enthusiasm; Tetra: #23 - Ease, Ego: #52 - So
What?/ Returning to the Origin; I-Ching: H45 - Congregation; Tetra: #61 -
Embellishment, Nuance: #10 - Impossible Advice/ What can Be Done?;
I-Ching:
H30 - Clinging to Brightness; Tetra: #41 - Response

..Understanding: Male Idea: #461 has 5 Categories: #1, #10, #400, #50 =
Very
extended, lasting; constant; continuity, constancy, strength; firm,
durable;
might ones, nobles; rocks; #1, #10, #400, #50 = n. Persistent; #1, #400,
#50, #10 = n. Munificent; #3, #2, #400, #6, #50 = n. Elevation; #30, #1,
#200, #90, #70, #30, #10, #30 = A crucible of earth;

Female Idea: #496 has 9 Categories: #20, #30, #40, #6, #400 = Reproach;
#30,
#6, #10, #400, #50 = Levithon; a serpent, crocodile, sea monster; #30, #6,
#10, #400, #50 = Kingdom, the name of the 10th Sephira; (#101 & #95).
Malkuth is (#259 + #1150 + #1471 = #2880) in Greek
Beta-alpha-sigma-iota-lambda-epsilon-iota-alpha tau-omega-nu
omicron-upsilon-rho-alpha-nu-omega-nu. It corresponds to the Union of the
Whole Body of Adam Qadmon (#161), although some say to the Anus; #30, #6,
#10, #400, #50 = Royal consorts or wives of a king who were of royal
birth;
#30, #6, #10, #400, #50 = Reign; #30, #6, #10, #400, #50 = A kingdom,
realm;
#30, #6, #10, #400, #50 = Royally, in royal state; #70, #4, #6, #400, #10,
#6 = His precepts; #100, #6, #60, #200, #5, #5, #70, #40, #10 = They make
deep a revolt; 

Still, we don't know how much credit is owed this ghostwriter in terms of
actual content.

..JackNote: This #6975, Super: #77 - Natural Guide/ Heaven's Reason;
I-Ching:
H12 - Stagnation; Tetra: #57 - Guardedness, Ego: #9 - Inconstancy of
Achievement/ Practising Placidity; I-Ching: H7 - Army; Tetra: #32 -
Legion,
Nuance: #19 - Argument for Ethical Anarchism/ Returning to Simplicity;
I-Ching: H57 - Gentle Penetration; Tetra: #58 - Closing In

..Understanding: Male Idea: #538 has 0 Categories. Female Idea: #505 has 3
Categories: #40, #300, #100, #5, #20, #30, #10 = Drinking-vessels; #40,
#400, #50, #10, #5 = n. Gift of Yah; #5, #90, #100, #10, #300 = To make or

declare perverse; 

If you know more, I'll be happy to include that in any future comments.

..JackNote: This #6104, Super: #47 - Ignorant Guides/ Viewing the Distant;

I-Ching: H43 - Resolution; Tetra: #30 - Bold Resolution, Ego: #29 -
Deeming/ 
Non-Assertion; I-Ching: H36 - Sinking Light; Tetra: #67 - Darkening,
Nuance: 
#48 - Forgetting/ Forgetting Knowledge; I-Ching: H35 - Progress; Tetra:
#20 
- Advance

..Understanding: Male Idea: #585 has 0 Categories. Female Idea: #534 has 0

Categories. 

And then repeated their categorical denial: '"No, they are not the same 
person. Just like not all Black people look alike, just like not all White

people look alike, not all 'Evangelical Christians' look alike. Look a 
little deeper. We are individuals!

..JackNote: This #2341, Super: #2 - Contrast of Terms/ Self-Culture;
I-Ching: 
H11 - Peace; Tetra: #16 - Contact, Ego: #73 - Employing Deeming/ Daring to

Act; I-Ching: H46 - Moving Upward; Tetra: #7 - Ascent, Nuance: #76 - 
Strength's Warning Signs/ Revealers of Virtue; I-Ching: H20 -
Contemplation; 
Tetra: #64 - Sinking

..Understanding: Male Idea: #151 has 0 Categories. Female Idea: #157 has 0

Categories." [Randy rkluth@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 0328 hours 1 September 2007]

The poster Jude (aka Jude Alexander, Jude de Garbage) <Cajun@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

makes a non-deeming assertion about the internet identities 家ndy (aka 
pulpitfire@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Firewall, Pulpitfire, Randy, www.pulpitfire.org) and

'Randy' (aka rkluth@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
) as to whether they are the same 
evangelical Christian, or individuals collectively involved in a
systematic 
approach to evangelism by attempting to disassociate them--and to make
this 
categorical assertion: "one has me block[ed]s and the other doesn't" There

is an interesting test which can be applied to this statement of Jude's 
religious/political tendencies/bigotries--in that Jude had no difficulties

communicating with Randy in this discussion on 31 August 2007 and with 
Internet Identity 家ndy pulpitfire@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 within a discussion thread 
related to an 11 eleven minute YouTube video snippet on Michael Moore's
'The 
Awful Truth'. A Pastor Rowland Croucher at 1123 hours on 23 August 2007 
invites newsgroup participants to view this video at YouTube and asks:

1. Was there anything funny here?

2. Did I feel any shame/pride about being a Christian?

3. (If I'm gay) how did I feel?

4. How would Jesus react to it?"

The perspective obtained from the poster Jude is one of unequivocal
sup****t 
for the autonomous and sovereign rights of gays and lesbians, its denial
is 
categorically affirmed as bigotry by the response to the statement: "If 
Americans had any sense they'd vote for Michael Moore as the next 
President."

"THANK YOU. Unfortunately, people don't like to be inconvenienced with
ugly 
facts like the underbelly of bigotry." [Jude 1123 hours 22 August 2007]

And in response to 家ndy (aka pulpitfire@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
) 0243 hours 23 August 
2007 further comment in this discussion, "Well, at least you're consistant

as a satanically energized moron!", calls this individual Randy. Thereby 
suggesting, contrary to latter claims, that not only is Jude in contact
with 
both individuals, but that they have similarly identified these allegedly 
two individuals with the same name: "Calling someone satanic is probably
not 
a good idea, Randy. Be sure and have your answer ready when God asks you 
about it on that day, okay?" [Jude 0933 hours 23 August 2007]

In response to the contrary perspective about feeling any shame/pride as 
serious doubts about Phelps' views being representative of much of
American 
Fundamentalist Christianity's true feelings about gays and lesbians (even
if 
they won't admit it), 家ndy (aka pulpitfire@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
) said, "You are a 
disgusting, depraved, liar, like those in Genesis 19, who try to force
God's 
people to accept your disgusting abomination, but who were then destroyed
by 
God." And Jude responded:

"Here comes good ole Randy, true to the truest "christain" way!!! 
Disgusting, depraved, liar blah blah blah. Disgusting abomination even?
Way 
to go! Bigotry wrapped up in religious intolerance based on stone and
bronze 
aged Jew's perceptions of truth and justice, not to mention their small 
minded perception of God, speaking in thunder, holding water and snow in 
cisterns and releasing them from his abode above the earth, fire from 
'heaven' (meteorites!!!! lol), etc. etc.

Just go on living in your religious delusions and enjoy this 'free' 
expression of hatred that you think you will not answer for... " [Jude
2333 
hours 22 August 2007]

"It's the "true christians" that help to BUILD UP the prejudices against
gay 
people! In fact, they're the MAIN force behind it! Anti-homo***uals sprang

from religion and have successfully poisoned even the non-religious
minds." 
[1134 hours 22 August 2007]

"Gee, Randy - why don't you just tell me what you really think of me? Why 
hold back? lol Show me one instance where I have ever tried to force my
life 
on anyone in Usenet. Just one is all you have to come up with...can you do

it and prove that *you* are not the liar here? You're gonna really feel 
foolish when you meet me for the first time in Heaven - do you know that? 
I'll love to see that.

Did you ever read the joke about the guy who went to heaven but there was
a 
massive wall at the edge of heaven. He could hear people inside it but 
couldn't see in as it was ONE massive building with no windows and doors. 
The guy goes up to Peter and asks him what the building was for and Peter 
said it was for the Fundamentalists so they could believe they're the only

ones who made it. " [Jude 0937 hours 23 August 2007]

'家ndy' pulpitfire@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 then quotes a grab-bag of biblical texts to 
sup****t his assertions: [Revelation 2:6, 15; 1 Corinthians 13:6; Psalm 
139:21-22; Leviticus 18:22, 20:13; Romans 1:26-27; 1 Corinthians 6:9; 1 
Timothy 1:10; Jude 1:7] to which Jude then responds: "Stone and bronze
aged 
people didn't understand homo***uality. We're just beginning to today.
Also, 
"straight flesh" means angel flesh and it was because ALL the people, men 
and women wanted to the strangers to participate in a pagan ***ual ritual.

DUH You don't understand the bible in any truth but COMPLETELY through
your 
particular religious addiction/cult." [Jude 1057 hours 23 August, 2007]

That this Internet persona known as Jude, is engaging in religious
zealotry 
of questionable ethical merit as contuct which '家ndy'
pulpitfire@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
had a month earlier characterised as: "His consistent, hypocritical,
twofold 
approach, is to first attack, twist, and force feed you a false version of

what your own motives and intentions are, ****traying you as a vain
egomaniac 
who needs to be brought down. He calls this "just telling the truth". But 
then, the minute anyone makes the slightest unfavorable remark about him,
he 
throws himself on the ground, acting like a victim who's just been 
"attacked", asking "where's the love?" He does this constantly."

I'm of the view that these individuals claim to Christianity involves the 
engaging in of spiritual warfare as ***ual racialism and obscurant 
fideism--And that they may not in all honesty and truth make any public 
claim to Judaeo-Christian identity, that to do so would be fraud. That
their 
responses are not befitting a person claiming Judaeo-Christian identity:

"Judgment is your answer? I was asking to say more so I can understand
you. 
You're famous for purposefully giving skewed and tangent replies. You
would 
do so much better if you TRULY wanted to communicate to others. I've taken

up for you several times. Thanks for showing how I was probable wrong in 
doing so.

..JackNote: This #3763, Super: #21 - Guiding and the Physical/ Emptying
the 
Heart; I-Ching: H31 - Influence; Tetra: #42 - Going to Meet, Ego: #37 - 
Non-Deeming Action/ Administration of Government; I-Ching: H40 - 
Deliverance; Tetra: #21 - Release, Nuance: #21 - Guiding and the Physical/

Emptying the Heart; I-Ching: H31 - Influence; Tetra: #42 - Going to Meet

..Understanding: Male Idea: #137 has 0 Categories. 

Female Idea: #183 has 2 Categories: #30, #4, #40, #1, #8, #100 = n. Field
of 
Blood (or man), the Western part of Hinnom; #40, #30, #40, #5, #20, #30,
#10 
= Weapons of war" [Jude 2316 hours 29 August 2007]

What I particularly marvel at from a neural linguistic perspective, is the

seeming duplicitious conduct which is conveyed by the connection between 
Jude's 2316 hours (hemispheric perspective) on Judgment is your 
answer--which resulted in the following Dynamic Natural Associator (DNA)
as 
Category of Understanding #183 and Jude's comment on 'ADOLF HITLER ON GOD'

at 2351 hours, where they similarly produced the following Dynamic Natural

Associator Male: #289 and Female: #323

..JackNote: This #13810, Super: #79 - Recognizing Agreements/ Keep Your 
Obligations; I-Ching: H56 - Wanderer; Tetra: #31 - Packing, Ego: #40 - 
Reversal/ Avoiding Activity; I-Ching: H36 - Sinking Light; Tetra: #68 - 
Dimming, Nuance: #80 - Primitivist Independence/ Remaining in Isolation; 
I-Ching: H16 - Enthusiasm; Tetra: #23 - Ease

..Understanding: Male Idea: #289 has 7 Categories: #1, #8, #10, #200, #70
= 
n. Brother is Bad; #1, #80, #200, #8 = The young (of birds); a nestling;
#9, 
#80, #200 = To project; to be pointed or sharp; a point, nail; claw, hoof;

#9, #200, #80 = To pluck; to rend, tear in pieces; to be fresh, to sprout 
forty; to luxuriate; fresh leaf; prey (of wild beasts); food; #10, #200,
#8, 
#40, #1, #30 = n. God Compassionates; #40, #9, #200, #40 = While not yet, 
before; #90, #5, #50, #70, #30, #8, #30, #6 = One stripped of the shoe 
(dispossessed of property); 

Female Idea: #323 has 3 Categories: #1, #2, #10, #300, #10 = n. Father of 
Gift; #8, #9, #6, #300 = n. Warrior; #60, #200, #3, #10, #50 = n. Plotter
or 
Subduer; 

I would conclude you had me in mind, when commenting as the engaging in
some 
sort of ***ual racialism, as claim to your own aspirational obscurant 
fideism: "Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other.
They 
slander each other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot
come 
to any sort of agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own,
fills 
the head of its own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs

of those it wins over to its side." [R.J.Hoffmann]

"And making sweeping and intrinsically untrue generalizations is just as 
bad. Some of the most loving - and hateful - people I've met are 
Christians." [Pastor Rowland Croucher, 1713 hours 31 August 2007]

- dolf
http://home.mysoul.com.au/grapple/
 




 8 Posts in Topic:
-- Christian Internet Evangelism: Is It Spiritual Warfare? (DRAF
Dolf Boek <dolfboek@[E  2007-09-01 04:00:32 
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Fun Tyme <fntym@[EMAIL  2007-09-01 16:24:01 
Re: -- Christian Internet Evangelism: Is It Spiritual Warfare?
Dolf Boek <dolfboek@[E  2007-09-01 07:53:58 
Re: -- Christian Internet Evangelism: Is It Spiritual Warfare?
Bernard Hubbard <berna  2007-09-02 18:01:32 
Re: -- Christian Internet Evangelism: Is It Spiritual Warfare?
Fun Tyme <fntym@[EMAIL  2007-09-02 18:05:28 
Re: -- Christian Internet Evangelism: Is It Spiritual Warfare?
Dolf Boek <dolfboek@[E  2007-09-02 08:57:08 
Re: -- Christian Internet Evangelism: Is It Spiritual Warfare?
Dolf Boek <dolfboek@[E  2007-09-02 10:01:52 
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