Yaako Warrior from AUZ, Germany, RSA, USA, Sweden, Hong Kong, Canada,
Russia, China, Denmark, UK, .........., the slayer of fecal stained
moslems. wrote:
> Yaako Warrior from AUZ, China, RSA, USA, Sweden, Hong Kong, Canada,
> Russia, China, Denmark, UK, .........., the slayer of ****skin moslems.
> wrote:
>> Yaako Warrior from AUZ, Germany, RSA, USA, Sweden, Hong Kong, Canada,
>> Russia, China, Denmark, UK, .........., the slayer of fecal stained
>> moslems. wrote:
>>> Yaako Warrior from AUZ, China, RSA, USA, Sweden, Hong Kong, Canada,
>>> Russia, China, Denmark, UK, .........., the slayer of ****skin
>>> moslems. wrote:
>>>> I wipe my ASS on Mohammed's FACE! wrote:
>>>>> Qur'an Inconsistency
>>>>>
>>>>> How many mothers does a Muslim have?
>>>>> Some introductory questions to the Muslim reader: Do you know how
many
>>>>> mothers you have? Do you know the name of each of your mothers?
>>>>>
>>>>> The Quran says that a mother is one who gives birth to a person:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> God has heard the words of her that disputes with thee concerning
>>>>> her
>>>>> husband, and makes complaint unto God. God hears the two of you
>>>>> conversing
>>>>> together; surely God is All-hearing, All-seeing. Those of you who
say,
>>>>> regarding their wives, 'Be as my mother's back,' they are not truly
>>>>> their
>>>>> mothers; their mothers are ONLY those who gave them birth, and they
>>>>> are
>>>>> surely saying a dishonourable saying, and a falsehood. Yet surely
>>>>> God is
>>>>> All-pardoning, All-forgiving. S. 58:1-2 Arberry
>>>>>
>>>>> Clearly, under this quranic definition of the word "mother",
>>>>> everyone has
>>>>> and can have only one mother.
>>>>>
>>>>> The intention of this passage is to abolish a certain way of
>>>>> divorce in Arab
>>>>> society, see this dictionary entry on ZIHAR. I agree with the
quranic
>>>>> condemnation of such an unjust method of divorce. However, the
>>>>> author of the
>>>>> Quran makes the blunder to attack the use of the word "mother" in a
>>>>> non-literal sense and to categorically rule that the word mother
>>>>> can ONLY be
>>>>> used for the woman who gave birth to the person, i.e. the word
>>>>> mother may
>>>>> not be used in any other way.
>>>>>
>>>>> Although I consider this Quranic response inappropriate, the
>>>>> statement in S.
>>>>> 58:2 is consistent with the Quranic prohibition on adoption:
>>>>>
>>>>> God has not assigned to any man two hearts within his breast; nor
>>>>> has He
>>>>> made your wives, when you divorce, saying, 'Be as my mother's
>>>>> back,' truly
>>>>> your mothers, neither has He made your adopted sons your sons in
>>>>> fact. That
>>>>> is your own saying, the words of your mouths; but God speaks the
>>>>> truth, and
>>>>> guides on the way. Call them after their true fathers; that is more
>>>>> equitable in the sight of God. If you know not who their fathers
>>>>> were, then
>>>>> they are your brothers in religion, and your clients. There is no
>>>>> fault in
>>>>> you if you make mistakes, but only in what your hearts premeditate.
>>>>> God is
>>>>> All-forgiving, All-compassionate. S. 33:4-5 Arberry
>>>>>
>>>>> The Quran reasons that since adopted children are not the adoptive
>>>>> parents'
>>>>> literal biological offspring, they shouldn't be reckoned as their
>>>>> children.
>>>>> Based on this verse, Islam has forbidden adoption. Again, children
>>>>> should
>>>>> only be called sons (or daughters) of their literal, biological
>>>>> fathers (and
>>>>> mothers). Vice versa, this certainly implies that only the
biological
>>>>> parents should be called father and mother as in 58:2 quoted above.
>>>>>
>>>>> Up to this point, the verses that have been quoted are consistent.
>>>>> However,
>>>>> the Quran states elsewhere that a person's wet-nurse is to be
>>>>> viewed like
>>>>> one's own mother, thereby making it unlawful for them to marry their
>>>>> wet-nurses or anyone nursed by the same woman:
>>>>>
>>>>> Forbidden to you are your mothers and daughters, your sisters,
>>>>> your aunts
>>>>> paternal and maternal, your brother's daughters, your sister's
>>>>> daughters,
>>>>> your mothers who have given suck to you, your suckling sisters,
>>>>> your wives'
>>>>> mothers, your stepdaughters who are in your care being born of your
>>>>> wives
>>>>> you have been in to -- but if you have not yet been in to them it
>>>>> is no
>>>>> fault in you - and the spouses of your sons who are of your loins,
>>>>> and that
>>>>> you should take to you two sisters together, unless it be a thing
>>>>> of the
>>>>> past; God is All-forgiving, All-compassionate; S. 4:23 Arberry
>>>>>
>>>>> So which is it? Is a mother only one who gives birth to a person,
>>>>> or can a
>>>>> person consider others to be their mothers such as their wet-nurses?
>>>>>
>>>>> On the one hand the Quran argues that only the genetic connection
>>>>> establishes motherhood or fatherhood, i.e. people should be called
>>>>> mothers
>>>>> or fathers ONLY in relation****p to their biological offspring. On
>>>>> the other
>>>>> hand, in regard to marriage, nursing is claimed to establish the
>>>>> same kind
>>>>> of legal relation****p as birthing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Islam refuses to recognize the much stronger parenting bond between
>>>>> a child
>>>>> and the people who raised him or her for many years, forbidding
>>>>> them to even
>>>>> call them mother or father, but already a few weeks of nursing
>>>>> (which a
>>>>> child will usually not even remember) has strong consequences.
>>>>>
>>>>> It will rarely happen that a man wants to marry his wet-nurse, but
the
>>>>> prohibition to marry another person who merely drank milk
>>>>> originating from
>>>>> the same woman hardly makes sense, even more so if it is only
>>>>> offspring of a
>>>>> "wet-nurse sibling". In fact, this rule had consequences for
>>>>> Muhammad's own
>>>>> marriage intentions. He could not marry the daughter of a man who
>>>>> was nursed
>>>>> by the same woman as Muhammad himself, see the endnote in this
>>>>> article.
>>>>>
>>>>> The inconsistency is compounded when we realize that Islam is
>>>>> over-strict in
>>>>> the area of wet-nurse relation****p, but at the same time some
Islamic
>>>>> scholars allow a man to marry his own biological daughter in certain
>>>>> cir***stances, see this article.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are at least four concepts of motherhood, i.e. people who
>>>>> could be
>>>>> called the mother or a mother of a person:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.. the biological mother, the one who gave birth to a person;
>>>>> 2.. a suckling mother, or wet-nurse, who gave her breast milk for
an
>>>>> infant, but who may not have had anything to do with the child
>>>>> after he/she
>>>>> was weaned;
>>>>> 3.. a foster-mother, who raised the child, cared and provided for
>>>>> him/her
>>>>> emotionally and materially for part or all of his/her childhood;
>>>>> 4.. an adoptive mother, who adopted the child to be counted as
>>>>> their own,
>>>>> with all legal rights and obligations as biological children.
>>>>> [ Side remark: For the purpose of this article, we will not discuss
>>>>> modern
>>>>> developments of surrogate mothers, i.e. when medical doctors implant
>>>>> fertilized eggs of one woman into the womb of another woman ... In
>>>>> that
>>>>> case, the Quranic definition of S. 58:2 will create another
>>>>> problem. Is the
>>>>> mother only the one who gave birth, even if she is genetically
>>>>> unrelated to
>>>>> the child she delivered? ]
>>>>>
>>>>> Concept 1 is uncontroversial. The biological mother will usually
>>>>> also be the
>>>>> person who both breastfeeds and raises the child. Nevertheless, some
>>>>> children can have "mothers" in some or all of these categories. A
>>>>> child may
>>>>> be born of woman A, breastfed by woman B, then live with
>>>>> foster-parents for
>>>>> a few years (woman C), and finally be adopted by another couple
>>>>> (woman D).
>>>>>
>>>>> Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, experienced the first three
>>>>> categories. His
>>>>> mother was Amina. Then he had a wet-nurse, Halimah, and a
>>>>> foster-mother,
>>>>> Fatima bint Asad.
>>>>>
>>>>> [ Side remark: Interestingly, the Arabic language does not conform
>>>>> to the
>>>>> wishes of the author of the Quran. It uses the formulation
>>>>> ommahatukumu
>>>>> allatee ardaAA****um (literally: "your mothers who nursed you") for
>>>>> wet-nurses, i.e. it uses an expression that includes the word omm
>>>>> ("mother"), even though one is not supposed to call that person
mother
>>>>> according to the Quran. In other words, the Quran breaks its own
>>>>> command. It
>>>>> rules to call only those women mothers who have given birth to you,
>>>>> but then
>>>>> it states "your MOTHERS who nursed you", when this part could
>>>>> easily have
>>>>> been formulated as "the WOMEN who nursed you". ]
>>>>>
>>>>> There is yet another inconsistency. We have just seen that the
strong
>>>>> emotional bond of a foster parent to the child does not provide
>>>>> sufficient
>>>>> grounds to call someone mother or father. It is only the biological
>>>>> link.
>>>>> Yet the Quran explicitly calls some women mothers of others who
>>>>> have no
>>>>> biological link to them:
>>>>>
>>>>> The Prophet is nearer to the believers than their selves; his
>>>>> wives are
>>>>> their mothers. Those who are bound by blood are nearer to one
>>>>> another in the
>>>>> Book of God than the believers and the emigrants; nevertheless you
>>>>> should
>>>>> act towards your friends honourably; that stands inscribed in the
>>>>> Book. S.
>>>>> 33:6 Arberry
>>>>>
>>>>> Like a foster mother, the wives of Muhammad may have had an
>>>>> emotional bond
>>>>> to Muhammad's companions (and their wives). They may have cared and
>>>>> provided
>>>>> for the poor among them like a foster mother would love a child in
>>>>> her care.
>>>>> Here is one example how this verse was applied:
>>>>>
>>>>> Abu Musa re****ted: There cropped up a difference of opinion
>>>>> between a
>>>>> group of Muhajirs (Emigrants) and a group of Ansar (Helpers) (and
>>>>> the point
>>>>> of dispute was) that the Ansar said: The bath (because of ***ual
>>>>> intercourse) becomes obligatory only when the semen spurts out or
>>>>> ejaculates. But the Muhajirs said: When a man has ***ual
>>>>> intercourse (with
>>>>> the woman), a bath becomes obligatory (no matter whether or not
>>>>> there is
>>>>> seminal emission or ejaculation). Abu Musa said: Well, I satisfy
>>>>> you on this
>>>>> (issue). He (Abu Musa, the narrator) said: I got up (and went) to
>>>>> 'A'isha
>>>>> and sought her permission and it was granted, and I said to her: O
>>>>> Mother,
>>>>> or Mother of the Faithful, I want to ask you about a matter on
>>>>> which I feel
>>>>> shy. She said: Don't feel shy of asking me about a thing which you
>>>>> can ask
>>>>> your mother, who gave you birth, for I am too your mother. Upon
>>>>> this I said:
>>>>> What makes a bath obligatory for a person? She replied: You have
>>>>> come across
>>>>> one well informed! The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him)
>>>>> said: When
>>>>> anyone sits amidst four parts (of the woman) and the cir***cised
>>>>> parts touch
>>>>> each other a bath becomes obligatory. (Sahih Muslim, Book 003,
>>>>> Number 0684)
>>>>>
>>>>> This story expresses a closeness of relation****p, trust and
>>>>> confidence, and
>>>>> a caring attitude for the Muslim community on the part of Aisha. If
>>>>> she had
>>>>> said "I am LIKE a mother to you", and if S. 33:6 had stated "his
>>>>> wives are
>>>>> LIKE mothers to the believers", there would not have been much of a
>>>>> problem,
>>>>> but it is said that "his wives ARE their mothers" and Aisha said "I
>>>>> AM too
>>>>> your mother" even though she had never given birth to anyone.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, when the Quran calls the wives of Muhammad the MOTHERS of
the
>>>>> believers, does it not contradict its own principle?
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, for direct contrast:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ... they are not truly their mothers; their mothers are ONLY
>>>>> those who
>>>>> gave them birth,
>>>>> and they are surely saying a dishonourable saying, and a
>>>>> falsehood. ... S.
>>>>> 58:2 Arberry
>>>>>
>>>>> The Prophet is nearer to the believers than their selves; his
>>>>> wives are
>>>>> their mothers. ... S. 33:6 Arberry
>>>>>
>>>>> Or, putting the issue somewhat differently, we ask with E. M.
Wherry:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "If this 'saying' is unjustifiable and a falsehood for the
>>>>> people, why not
>>>>> for the Prophet?"
>>>>> (A Comprehensive Commentary on the Qur'an, Vol. 4, p. 124)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> HOW TO BECOME A ****SKIN MOSLEM - this is how: **** goats, molest
>>>> children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the time, never shower or
>>>> bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities at a maddrassa,
>>>> wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you ****ed to a nearby
>>>> village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
>>>> indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids,
>>>> ............ Practice all those and you too could become a prophet
!!
>
>
HOW TO BECOME A ****SKIN MOSLEM - this is how: **** goats, **** your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you ****ed to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
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molesting goat ****ers and nikomaks
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