Re: I don't laugh at atheists. They have accepted indoctrinations.

On May 26, 7:59=A0pm, Ross <rossnospample...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Mon, 26 May 2008 14:28:11 +1000, Barry OGrady wrote:
> >On Thu, 22 May 2008  swa...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

> >><*snip*>
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> >>A Christian is a person who believes, 'it is by grace, the unmerited
> >>favour of God, are we saved (have sins forgiven and have eternal life)
> >>through faith, and that not of ourselves ie any good works that we do
> >>to earn that salvation,
>
> >Certainly we did nothing to earn the need for salvation. God downgraded
> >all of creation without our permission. But God is slack as men call
very=

> >slack and God enjoys teasing us.
>
Barry, You continue to twist the teachings of the Bible.

> >>it is the gift of God, not of works lest any one should boast (in his/
> >>herr own accomplishments, piety) =A0Ephesians 2 : 8 - 9 (amplified)
>
> >Was it a gift of God that caused us to need salvation?
>
It is the fact of sin that we need salvation. Sin is disobeying the
perfect laws of God in thought or actions.
>
> >>I would be of the opinion that it is better to say that from certain
> >>presuppositions (ie changes have occurred in the past and those
> >>changes have developed new species) that evolutionists have given the
> >>idea that their deliberations/research studies have been
> >>scientifically proven.
> >>I do not believe that to be so.

> >>Creationism, (God Almighty created by the power of His word) also,
> >>cannot be scientifically proven.
>
> >The two are not in same class. Evolution is science. Creation is
mytholog=
y.
>
> Evolutionism and Creationism are both 'faith' positions.
> Neither of them can be proved (currently).
>
However, Evolution and long ages (long ages are needed for Evolution
to have occurred) are taught as facts in the school system and through
the media
and so many believe that they have beem scientifically proved.

But for all who use the Internet there are many articles on both sides
of this issue that can be read. The Creationists are scientists too
who maintain that there is not the scientific evidence for Evolution
and that there is much more evidence for Creationism.

Gladys Swager