"lynx" <none@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> Chuck Stamford wrote:
>
>> "lynx" <none@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>>
>>> Mark T wrote:
>>>
>>>> "lynx" wrote
>>>>>> No Christian follows what Jesus says in the bible when I ask them
...
>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>> Jesus said in Matthew 5:42, "Give to him that asketh thee, and
from
>>>>>> him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away." May I have your
>>>>>> house and car and may I borrow your most prized possession?
>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps it's implied that the request stems from genuine need.
>>>>>
>>>> The passage says nothing about genuine need ... only a request.
>>>>
>>> Well if you're going to apply a strict literal interpretation, and you
>>> accept that Jesus did say this, then you only have the conclusion that
>>> Christianity imposes impossible demands on us available to you, which
>>> then begs the response, so why even bother trying to live a christian
>>> life?
>>>
>>
>> I see you're being tutored by the agenda-driven, unlearned, unwashed
>> elite again, when you were right the first time.
>>
>> It doesn't take a rocket scientist here (no offense, Pete!) to realize
>> that Jesus is teaching a PRINCIPLE of the kingdom of God; that
principle
>> being taht one has eternal life only insofar as they are willing to
>> surrender it to God's love. People who love God giving to the needy is
>> one way God has of meetting those needs, and is simultaneously (God
>> hardly ever does anything for only one reason!) a test of the giver's
>> faith that God will provide for their needs as well. All of this
>> revolves around the concept of need, who has it, and who meets it (God
>> through the faith of the giver!), and only a complete dunce like Mark T
>> would suggest we throw out this concept as we seek to understand the
>> passage!
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Chuck Stamford
>
> Hey thanks Chuck! I have just said as much- well not quite as much, just
> about it being a principle to follow- back to Chris before I saw this.
And
> I guess you've noticed that when Morkie wants to criticize, he
simplifies
> to the extreme, but when he wants to put forward his beliefs, he does
the
> opposite- he complicates to the extreme!
He's one of the few who have made my killfile, so I don't see what he
writes
enough anymore to make out a meta- trend like the one you've just
descirbed.
We lose the meaning of the text when we dump the concept of needs being
met
from our exegesis of it. That concept is the CRUX of the teaching on
giving, both here, and throughout the NT.
All the best,
Chuck Stamford
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