Chuck Stamford wrote:
> "Chris Bell" <cbell@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>>Chuck Stamford wrote:
>>
>>>"Chris Bell" <cbell@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>>>
>>>
>>>>Barry OGrady wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 14 May 2008 06:03:21 GMT, Chris Bell <cbell@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Barry OGrady wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Mon, 12 May 2008 10:12:41 +1000, **Rowland Croucher**
>>>>>>><rccroucher@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It's *Ninure*:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Like manure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>she's doing well at the moment, according to her emails and
Facebook
>>>>>>>>communications. (Anyone else here a Facebook person? It's an
>>>>>>>>interesting way to keep in touch with friends...)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ninure is a lesbian, which the bible tells us is a sin worthy of
>>>>>>>death.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Really? Must be a different bible to mine, which never mentions
female
>>>>>>homo***uality.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Romans 1
>>>>>25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and wor****pped and served
>>>>> the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever.
Amen.
>>>>>26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even
their
>>>>> women did change the natural use into that which is against
>>>>>nature:
>>>>>27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman,
>>>>> burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working
that
>>>>> which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense
of
>>>>>their
>>>>> error which was meet.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rowland Croucher
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Barry
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Barry
>>>>>=====
>>>>
>>>>Hmmm. My translation differs
>>>>
>>>>26 ... Their women exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural..."
which
>>>>suggests either anal intercourse or using a dildo.
>>>>
>>>>So, I think I am right and you are misinterpreting the verse.
>>>
>>>
>>>It's given in the context of the text, Chris, that Paul is speaking
about
>>>homo***ual ***, not masturbation or anal ***.
>>>
>>>"LIKEWISE the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in
their
>>>lust one for another"
>>>
>>>If he says "likewise", and then goes on to say the men burned for each
>>>other having left the natural use of the woman, how is that
"suggesting"
>>>masturbation is in view? Or anal *** for that matter??
>>>
>>>Chuck Stamford
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Pretty clear to me. "Natural intercourse" being called the natural use,
>>and anal *** being the unnatural, which is what men do.
>
>
> But it's not what women do, obviously. You still are ignoring
"likewise"
> here.
>
>
It doesn't say the women were having *** *with each other*. It may be
that they were having anal *** as a means of contraception. Hence the
likewise refers to their method of *** ie anal, which is then followed
by the men who no longer need women at all. IMO this a more logical
reading of the passage.
I repeat that there is no definite mention of lesbians in the bible.
Chris
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