"Chris Bell" <cbell@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> Chuck Stamford wrote:
>> "Chris Bell" <cbell@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> news:pjWWj.1314$IK1.1285@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>>Barry OGrady wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 14 May 2008 06:03:21 GMT, Chris Bell <cbell@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Barry OGrady wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Mon, 12 May 2008 10:12:41 +1000, **Rowland Croucher**
>>>>>><rccroucher@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It's *Ninure*:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Like manure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>she's doing well at the moment, according to her emails and
Facebook
>>>>>>>communications. (Anyone else here a Facebook person? It's an
>>>>>>>interesting way to keep in touch with friends...)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ninure is a lesbian, which the bible tells us is a sin worthy of
>>>>>>death.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Really? Must be a different bible to mine, which never mentions
female
>>>>>homo***uality.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Romans 1
>>>>25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and wor****pped and served
>>>> the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever.
Amen.
>>>>26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even
their
>>>> women did change the natural use into that which is against
>>>> nature:
>>>>27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman,
>>>> burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working
that
>>>> which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense
of
>>>> their
>>>> error which was meet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Rowland Croucher
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Barry
>>>>>
>>>>>Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Barry
>>>>=====
>>>
>>>Hmmm. My translation differs
>>>
>>>26 ... Their women exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural..."
which
>>>suggests either anal intercourse or using a dildo.
>>>
>>>So, I think I am right and you are misinterpreting the verse.
>>
>>
>> It's given in the context of the text, Chris, that Paul is speaking
about
>> homo***ual ***, not masturbation or anal ***.
>>
>> "LIKEWISE the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in
their
>> lust one for another"
>>
>> If he says "likewise", and then goes on to say the men burned for each
>> other having left the natural use of the woman, how is that
"suggesting"
>> masturbation is in view? Or anal *** for that matter??
>>
>> Chuck Stamford
>>
>>
>>
>>>Chris
>>
>>
>>
> Pretty clear to me. "Natural intercourse" being called the natural use,
> and anal *** being the unnatural, which is what men do.
But it's not what women do, obviously. You still are ignoring "likewise"
here.
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