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> On May 6, 12:17 am, "Lu R" wrote:
>> >" ::: good news runner :::" wroteth:
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> <snip>
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>> >> And I can only say that God created this world in six days, and he
>> >> rest
> ed
>> >> on the seventh. I have no doubt that God can do that. It is a
>> >> matter of
>
>> >> faith, that is all.
>>
>> First there was creation then came evolution..what's so hard to
>> believe
>
>> about that? :)-
>
> But what kind of evolution?.
> Words in English can have more that one meaning, sometimes differing
> in that meaning in part or in the whole. The meaning is determined
> within the context of the whole sentence.
>
> First came creation.
> Living had to produce living.
Where is this requirement found? Life is chemical. Granted, the atoms
that make up the molecules of life had to be forged in early model stars
before anything resembling organic life could arise. What is also clear,
however, is that they will inevitably be forged in such stars.
Arguments by asserting the consequent are fallacies. Fallacies only
prove that their purveyors are either dishonest or illogical (perhaps
both). They prove nothing about the subject matter of the fallacy.
> Macro-evolutionists avoid that issue as they would avoid the plague.
This is an outright lie. Evolutionary biologists do not really study the
biochemistry of life's origins. But many biochemists study it, and
hundreds of papers are written every year on the subject.
Creationists, on the other hand, avoid the subject of their own
movement's underlying dishonesty like the plague. Perhaps they should,
since it is a plague that will ultimately destroy them -- a plague of
truth.
> However, there is micro-change in all living species.
> It would be better to use the term 'micro-change' or any other that
> gives the same meaning, but which cannot be confused with macro-
> evolution up the 'tree of life' or along 'cladistic branches.
>
> No one has proved that a unicelluar organism finally became a human
> over milleniums. 'Molecules-to-man', 'particle-to-professors',
> 'goo-to- you-via-the-zoo',did not happen.
There is a good deal of genetic evidence sup****ting the unity of all
life. Moreover, the phylogenetic trees derived from morphological
analysis of living and fossil species correlate extremely highly with the
phylogenetic tree mathematically derived from the sequenced genomes of
living organisms. It is not necessary, even, to completely sequence
genomes in order to derive this tree.
To the extent that proof is possible in the world of science, common
descent has been proved beyond all reasonable doubt. The doubts of
creationists are not reasonable. They are based on a superstitious
adherence to a fallacious understanding of the relation****p between
Scripture and God. They are an expression of fanaticism, not of faith
and not of reason. The organizations that promote creationism are
intrinsically and deeply dishonest, their proponents being incapable of
honesty with themselves never mind with others.
The only cure for a spiritual malady such as this is the traditional one.
Spiritual conversion. Creationists present themselves as Christians, but
they are not Christians. For them, Jesus Christ is someone they
occasionally misquote when they are trying to establish their heresy.
Other than that, they seem to have little use for Him. They certainly
choose to ignore His reiteration of the ninth Commandment.
I am being forced, by observing their behavior, to conclude that
creationists have severed their relation****p with Jesus Christ in favor
of a relation****p with a misguided crusade against honest science. That
is to say: latter day creationism and Christianity are mutually
incompatible.
> The work of the Intelligent Designer, God Almighty indicates Creation
> of the original species and then change within each 'kind' - species -
> within various environmental conditions as Charles Darwin saw in the
> finches in the Galapogas Islands.
All things visible and invisible are the work of Almighty God. That is
what the creed states. What creationists state, is that only the things
that creationists permit to exist are created by Almighty God, while all
other things are created by men or by nature or by chance or by any other
false god that the creationists have invented.
--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667
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