Re: Hell (was The Wall)

Chris Bell wrote:
 
> Chuck Stamford wrote:
>> "Chris Bell" <cbell@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>> news:OYtVj.37$IK1.15@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>> Chuck Stamford wrote:
>>>
>>>> No, Rowland, you've never "categorically" stated you are a 
>>>> universalist. You've just taken every op****tunity you ever had to 
>>>> either argue for that belief yourself, or provide article after 
>>>> article by others who either do, or express sympathy for that 
>>>> belief.  That makes you worse than a universalist, Rowland, for a 
>>>> universalist is "either warm or cold" (they TAKE A STAND), and you 
>>>> are neither.
>>>>
>>>
>>> See above. Rowland takes many "stands" as you call them, and I would 
>>> never call him either warm or cold. He is definitely in the "hot" 
>>> category!
>>
>>
>> Easy to say, Chris.  Give me an example of Rowland making a firm, 
>> clear expression of a belief he has, and then justifying it against 
>> its challengers.
>>
> I will let Rowland speak for himself, but in my experience he has done 
> pretty well in going into bat for those who cannot do it themselves. 
> Two examples here in arc - Dawn and Ninere (?).
 
His humanitarianism is not in question.
 
>
>> I can cite you example after example where he has simply thrown a 
>> panoply of differing beliefs at people who were truly seeking 
>> guidance in their search for truth.  Is that your idea of what a 
>> minister of the Gospel is supposed to do?
>>
> Yes. Absolutely. How can you find truth if it is hidden under a 
> bushel, as the fundamentalists do? Don't you read your bible? 
> (Rhetorical question - I know you do, but have trouble with the 
> interpretation! For truth to be revealed, you must open every bushel, 
> even if you don't like what you find under it!)
 
Oh good! let's all be agnostic then. because there's noting in that 
method that would lead to christian beliefs.
 
>
> Chris


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