Re: Hell II (Was: Rational thought etc.)

On 5/05/2008 3:15:33 PM, misanthropic_curmudgeon wrote:
> On May 3, 12:22 pm, Sean McHugh <se...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> [snip]
>> ~ In 1999, Pope John Paul II made headlines by saying hell should be
>> ~ seen not as a fiery underworld but as "the state of those who
>> ~ freely and definitively separate themselves from God,
> 
> That is hell? A life without any reference to gods, pixies, and
> externally imposed absolutes, threats, or manipulation?  If you'll
> excuse the pun, it sounds like heaven to me!!
> 

A life without any reference to gods? The world already has that, in North
Korea, where the even word "god" was banned decades ago - see
http://creationontheweb.com/content/view/5393#saltmines
I encourage you to
emigrate to there Curmudgeon, then you would really get a taste of hell,
oops, 'heaven' on earth.

In fact atheist regimes have a consistent record of producing hell on
earth -
Stalin in the USSR and Mao in China, who murdered citizens by the tens of
millions. Pol Pot in Cambodia, and Robespierre in France, wannabees who
tried
hard but just had far fewer citizens available to kill. See the two-minute
FoolsHeart clip http://www.foolsheart.com
for a brief overview of the
hell-on-earth produced by atheists when they get into power.

Ever since the Fall sinful people have wanted to exclude God from
mankind's
affairs. That is what produces hell, and that is what post-judgment Hell
will
be - total separation from God and God's standards and goodness.

Andrew