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Re: Rational thought process vs creationist 'thought' processes

by "swa@[EMAIL PROTECTED] " <swager@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 7, 2008 at 08:38 PM

On May 8, 11:24=A0am, misanthropic_curmudgeon wrote:
> On May 7, 1:05 pm, swa...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> [snip]
>
> > The drift was Americas from Africa, Australia and Antarctica from Asia
> > that has nothing to do with the circumference of the world - one of
> > the statistics you gave me to use for the first calculation.
>
> It does not matter which one drifted from which - the net effect is a
> drift apart, of one is relative to the other. =A0eg, two trains travel
> away from each other at 30km/h has the same effect as one train being
> stationary and one travelling away at 60km/h.
>
> Either way, the continents under your (ludicrious) hypothesis are
> travelling away from each other at a (preposterous) rate that could
> be observed by the ****d eye. =A0And absolutely no evidence exists for
> such a claim either in the records of ancient peoples, geography, or any
> other form of physical history.
>
How could there have been as the people were on the land/ Ark-boat and
didn't have mapping skills. Apart from that they would have had to be
above the land in some sort of a space-****p to see the shore line
moving away from them.

> > you do not accept that there was a great worldwide
> > flood about 4500 years ago.
>
> Well, given there is no evidence to sup****t that there was, and a
> ****e-load suggesting there was not, what would you expect a rational
> person to conclude?
>
Noah's Flood  Questions and Answers
http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/3000

> [snip "doubling populations"]
>
> That is because you don't understand basic algebra, human mortality,
> the concepts of plagues and pre-modern medicine.

Depends what you mean by 'basic algebra' - I have taught it to Year 9
Advanced level and have worked out one problem at HSC Level that the
Evening College tutor could not do - I had to work on it for some time
though!
or did you mean 'basic' at the Tertiary level?

The ancient peoples may have been healthier than modern day humans on
the whole - the Bible gives datings to about 900 years prior to the
Flood and a reduction after the Flood of up to 100 years.
Doubling rates are slow up to 100 years from 2 to 128 =3Dlittle less
than 6 generations; from 128 to 1024 =3D a little more than 3
generations; from 1024 to 10 000 =3D less than 3.5 generations (all
calculations only approximate).
It would seem to me that statistics given to HSC students in my
previous posting could be based on the conjecture that the original
humans must have been subject to many diseases - but what would be the
evidence for that? .

Gladys Swager
 




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Rational thought process vs creationist 'thought' processes
misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-04-29 01:13:14 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-04-29 14:49:52 
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Sean McHugh <seanm@[EM  2008-04-30 10:37:50 
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**Rowland Croucher** <  2008-04-30 10:50:59 
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Sean McHugh <seanm@[EM  2008-04-30 11:25:04 
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lynx <none@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-30 01:52:40 
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Barry OGrady <god_free  2008-04-30 13:52:09 
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lynx <none@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-30 07:34:57 
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Chris Bell <cbell@[EMA  2008-04-30 10:12:57 
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lynx <none@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-30 12:35:46 
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Chris Bell <cbell@[EMA  2008-04-30 23:37:40 
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Barry OGrady <god_free  2008-05-02 14:48:14 
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Barry OGrady <god_free  2008-04-30 13:49:52 
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Sean McHugh <seanm@[EM  2008-05-02 20:21:10 
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**Rowland Croucher** <  2008-05-08 12:31:25 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-12 01:26:28 
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Barry OGrady <god_free  2008-05-14 13:57:54 
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"Mark T" <sn  2008-04-30 11:05:17 
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misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-04-30 21:11:15 
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misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-04-30 21:19:01 
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Allistar <b@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-02 09:57:15 
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misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-05-04 22:15:34 
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"Andrew Lamb" &  2008-05-09 10:52:44 
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Sean McHugh <seanm@[EM  2008-05-10 11:25:12 
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Chris Bell <cbell@[EMA  2008-05-11 23:35:34 
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Sean McHugh <seanm@[EM  2008-05-21 19:42:16 
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misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-05-04 22:19:00 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-06 18:05:11 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-07 20:38:07 
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misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-05-08 13:48:20 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-09 18:05:34 
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misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-05-11 17:34:27 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-11 20:31:42 
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misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-05-12 16:48:37 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-12 18:19:16 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-12 19:30:54 
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theo <theo@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-13 16:59:30 
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misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-05-13 18:02:35 
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misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-05-19 14:45:20 
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misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-05-19 21:49:50 
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misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-05-21 17:19:11 
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misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-05-21 20:59:38 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-21 22:26:43 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-22 03:27:26 
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Chris Bell <cbell@[EMA  2008-05-22 11:49:48 
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misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-05-22 17:27:12 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-22 18:50:59 
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misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-05-22 22:19:16 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-23 03:04:49 
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misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-05-23 15:36:12 
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