Re: Hell II (Was: Rational thought etc.)

Sean McHugh wrote:
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> Doing a search on the occurrences of a word might seem like being
> thorough, but it isn't. What you needed to do, at a minimum, was find
> what word was translated as "Hell" and then do a search on _that_
> word. The Hebrew word that gets translated to 'Hell' is she'owl
> (H7585) which is often written as 'sheol'. The first occurrence of
> 'sheol' occurs in Genesis 37:35. There it is merely translated to
> 'grave'. Here is a list of the first ten occurrences of 'sheol' with
> the corresponding KJV translation:
> 
> 
> Gen 37:35  -->  'grave'
> Gen 42:38  -->  'grave'
> Gen 44:29  -->  'grave'
> Gen 44:31  -->  'grave'
> Num 16:30  -->  'pit'
> Num 16:33  -->  'pit' 
> Deu 32:22  -->  'hell'
> 1 Sam 2:6  -->  'grave'
> 2 Sam 22:6 -->  'hell'
> 1 Ki 2:6   -->  'grave'

Couple of comments:

The KJV would be the last translation I'd use to back up theological 
assertions...

> All up, sheol gets translated to 'grave' 31 times, to 'pit' 3 times
> and to 'hell' 31 times. It should be clear that there is expedience
> happening here and Christians in the translating, have imposed their
> eschatology onto the Old Testament. 

So use modern translations where Jewish scholars were either directly 
involved, or acted as front-line consultants (there are quite a few of 
these, beginning, I think, with the Jerusalem Bible and the NEB).

By the way, don't bother seeking
> the assistance of the Strongs Dictionary because it was made up _from_
> the KJV, so naturally it will agree with it. It simply presents all
> the 'definitions' determined by the KJV translators. The bottom line
> is that the Jews, who wrote the Old Testament, did not (and still
> don't) believe in a place of eternal torment/punishment for sinners. 
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