Re: A loveing and careing God?

lynx wrote:
> Chris Bell wrote:
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>> lynx wrote:
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>>> Chris Bell wrote:
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>>>> lynx wrote:
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>>>>> Chris Bell wrote:
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>>>>>> Barry OGrady wrote:
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>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:31:45 GMT, lynx <none@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> *snip*
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What Mark calls God the rest of us call nature or the universe.
>>>>>>> No wonder Mark's God lacks intelligence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> God lacks intelligence? How can that be when God is infinite, 
>>>>>> encompassing the whole universe and all the "intelligent" beings 
>>>>>> with it? Seems to me that God has all the intelligence. Its 
>>>>>> someone closer to home who lacks in that department Barry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If this world is the best an 'intelligent' God can do, then he 
>>>>> stuffed up big time! and it speaks very little for His so-called 
>>>>> intelligence.
>>>>>
>>>> I don't understand this comment. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh really? You think that a world where the lot of mankind is to 
>>> suffer from all manner of causes- natural disasters, famine, sickness 
>>> and disease, etc.,- and whose only remedy is the slow and painstaking 
>>> evolution of knowledge of how to overcome this situation over 
>>> countless centuries is a good plan?
>>>
>> Who am I to question what God does or doesn't do? 
> 
> 
> That's a potentially dangerous way of thinking. What if ppl had said 
> 'who am I to question what the Sun God does?'
> 
Why is that dangerous? What I think is dangerous is when you don't 
question those who claim to speak for God.

>> What makes you think that the suffering of mankind should be an 
>> overriding concern of God? 
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> 
> So your position is that God is happy to allow his creations to die and 
> suffer in pain and misery. What does that say about God?
> 
No, I am not saying that. I am saying that God suffers with us in our 
pain and misery.

>> Did Jesus heal every sick or suffering person in Palestine when he was 
>> on earth?
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> 
> Good question.
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>>
>> You are starting to sound like Barry.
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> 
> I'm happy to sound like Barry if Barry makes sense.
>
OK. Barry does make sense sometimes.

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>>>> This world is still evolving, and it is likely if not certain that 
>>>> it will produce much more intelligence yet, probably through 
>>>> intelligent machines (computers) which will have many times the 
>>>> information processing power of us mere humans. 
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>>>
>>>
>>> So what?
>>>
>> So if intelligence is the be all and end all of this world, then it 
>> isn't finished yet, and you cannot make derogatory remarks about God's 
>> intelligence from an imperfect perspective.
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> 
> I never said anything about intelligence being 'the be all and end all 
> of this world'. I'm not sure what your point is or what you're saying. 
> Are you saying that God hasn't finished 'creating' yet?
> 
Yes.
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>> Chris
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