On May 2, 9:55 am, Athanasius <dcn_athanas...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On May 1, 5:52 pm, "(: Lawrence :)" <lmec...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > On May 1, 7:29 am, Athanasius <dcn_athanas...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > God is immanent. The Church is not.
>
> The Church is the Mystical bride of Christ Who is God. You are failing
> to understand/confirm/believe that the Church and Christ are united in
> a Mystical union, which while not making the Church God or Christ,
> most certainly brings her into a realm that you have not yet
> comprehended. For example the -universal Church-the Bride of Christ
> has -never- yet been wrong in any doctrine or stated belief, nor will
> she ever be, being guided by the Holy Spirit. Individual men and women
> can and do err when they speak outside of the universal Christian
> faith. Of course this means that the Church can -never- be re-invented/
> re-constituted/re-instituted as protestant mindset believes. Only the
> Groom Himself could establish His Bride and He did it already, once,
> nearly two thousand years ago.
The Church is people. It isn't even the institution.
Jesus didn't come to start an institution. He came to redeem people as
the Messiah.
No matter how much flowery language you throw my way, at the end of
the day, you have a choice as to what is more important to you.
The institition or people. From ongoing evidence of your behaviour and
your propensity to resort to legalese and other forms of spiritualised
word filler, I can only conclude that the balance is slightly tipped
in favour of institutional behaviour.
So.. why is Orthodoxy that important in comparison to the people
around you ? Why must Orthodox dogma be more important than loving
people ?
> Church is -now- infinite and eternal. But you are not ready to
> understand or even try to understand this fact. (Wherever Christ is
> now, so too is His Bride the Church). Look at some Scriptures that
> confirm this truth, largely unknown amongst those groups who left the
> Church:
> "We shall be like Him"..... "You shall be perfect as your Father in
> Heaven is perfect."..... I said, =93You are gods, And all of you are
> children of the Most High.=94.... and most importantly.... 2 Peter
1:3=96
> 4, which states that God=92s =93divine power has given to us all things
> that pertain to life and godliness=94 through the knowledge of God, who
> called us by His own glory and goodness. Through these things, He has
> given us His great promises so that we =93may be partakers of the divine
> nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through
> lust.=94
Yes, and nowhere does Scripture state the Church always equals the
Coptic Orthodox church..
> Partakers of the Divine Nature huh??? and you think Christ's Church is
> an irrelevant addendum, to take or leave at will without any recourse.
The Church does not automatically equal the Coptic Orthodox as I said
to you a while back.
You seemed to have missed this obvious truth then and you miss it now.
Since the overflow of your heart states Orthodox matters.. let's see
how much it matters.
To the point of calling your brethren unbelievers ? It seems so.
To the point of resorting to cheap metalanguage and dogma to justify
yourself? It seems so.
> May God remove the scales on your eyes and the hardness of your
> heart.
He's already done that. That's why I can run rings around your defence
of the Orthodox institution as you know it.
After all, when God sets people free, they are free indeed.
> I am still awaiting a reason for your trilogy of lies from last week
> Larry. Or is truthfulness not a part of your understanding of
> Christianity?
What ? Where ? Show me..
> Notice I don't expect an apology, which a Christian would do of course
> if they had posted such inane untruths. :-)
> Failing any explanation our interaction shall enter the same level of
> interaction with other such persons as my non interaction with Barry O
> Grady and Dolf.
Well, if you want me to explain myself, I need a point of reference to
begin with in order to understand *what* you're on about.
Please supply.
lawrence
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