On May 1, 5:52=A0pm, "(: Lawrence :)" <lmec...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On May 1, 7:29 am, Athanasius <dcn_athanas...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > Lawrence wrote:
> > > Because it is God.. not the Orthodox, Holy Tradition or Scripture..
> > > that saves people..
>
> > > Obvious, innit ?
>
> > Obvious you separate God from His Church. His Church does not make the
> > same mistake.
>
> God is immanent. The Church is not.
The Church is the Mystical bride of Christ Who is God. You are failing
to understand/confirm/believe that the Church and Christ are united in
a Mystical union, which while not making the Church God or Christ,
most certainly brings her into a realm that you have not yet
comprehended. For example the -universal Church-the Bride of Christ
has -never- yet been wrong in any doctrine or stated belief, nor will
she ever be, being guided by the Holy Spirit. Individual men and women
can and do err when they speak outside of the universal Christian
faith. Of course this means that the Church can -never- be re-invented/
re-constituted/re-instituted as protestant mindset believes. Only the
Groom Himself could establish His Bride and He did it already, once,
nearly two thousand years ago.
>
> Since you seek to follow Scripture over and above following God,
> Scripture talks of a new heaven and a new earth, does it not ? Once
> those things come, there is no need for the Church to exist as an
> institution.
>
> God existed before humanity knew of such a thing as a Church, let
> alone an institution called Coptic Orthodoxy.
> God will likewise exist after the need to meet fellow believers has
> ended. The fact His followers will also exist after the need to meet
> such believers this side of Parousia has ended also seems to escape
> your attention.
>
> God: Immanent, infinite: score 1.
> Church as institution: finite, limited: score 0.
Church servant: Score 1
Lawrence contemplations: Score 0
Church is -now- infinite and eternal. But you are not ready to
understand or even try to understand this fact. (Wherever Christ is
now, so too is His Bride the Church). Look at some Scriptures that
confirm this truth, largely unknown amongst those groups who left the
Church:
"We shall be like Him"..... "You shall be perfect as your Father in
Heaven is perfect."..... I said, =93You are gods, And all of you are
children of the Most High.=94.... and most importantly.... 2 Peter 1:3=96
4, which states that God=92s =93divine power has given to us all things
that pertain to life and godliness=94 through the knowledge of God, who
called us by His own glory and goodness. Through these things, He has
given us His great promises so that we =93may be partakers of the divine
nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through
lust.=94
Partakers of the Divine Nature huh??? and you think Christ's Church is
an irrelevant addendum, to take or leave at will without any recourse.
May God remove the scales on your eyes and the hardness of your
heart.
I am still awaiting a reason for your trilogy of lies from last week
Larry. Or is truthfulness not a part of your understanding of
Christianity?
Notice I don't expect an apology, which a Christian would do of course
if they had posted such inane untruths. :-)
Failing any explanation our interaction shall enter the same level of
interaction with other such persons as my non interaction with Barry O
Grady and Dolf.
May peace be yours.
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