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Re: Rational thought process vs creationist 'thought' processes

by Allistar <b@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 1, 2008 at 07:08 PM

swa@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

> On May 1, 2:11 pm, misanthropic_curmudgeon
> <misanthropiccurmudg...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> On May 1, 11:09 am, Allistar <b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> [snip]
>>
>> > What has that got to do with evolution? Evolution is not the same
thing
>> > as abiogenesis. You have your sciences mixed up.
>>
> But if you can't demonstrate/explain how non-living became living it
> may be that the deductions that have made about unicellular  organisms
> changing into more complex forms may also be wrong!

They are different sciences - evolution is not the science of "non living
matter becoming living matter". Only the ignorant would suggest otherwise.

And if we can't demonstrate how non-living became living - so what?
Science
can't explain everything .That's not a good reason to invent a "god of the
gaps" to explain such mysteries.

>> Gladys has many things mixed up - dont forget that she sees no
>> problems with the concept of continents racing accross the surface of
>> the earth at a very visiable several feet a second.  She steadfastly
>> refuses to investigate the consequences of such a hypothesis (which
>> stems from her creationist beliefs) like the amount of energy
>> required, the concequences to both land or marine life, the complete
>> lack of geological evidence for such an event....
> 
> My first knowledge of Pangaea came from helping a High school student
> with his assignment. I still have the Science text that gave me the
> information in my possession.
> I  did not post to you  that the continents 'raced across the surface
> of the earth....'..
> I gave the fact that they moved, (at what speed I do not know, but I
> did give you some explanations in another posting quite some time ago)
> from a Wikipedia article and a Creation on the web article which both
> showed how the landforms may have moved apart..
> The Bible does say  (Genesis 1 : 9) that 'the waters ...be gathered
> together in one place and let the dry land appear' - possibly as one
> land mass.

The Bible is a book of myths, and should be treated as such.

> How did the patriarchs know that when they weren't there at that time
> and had no means of viewing all the seas flowing into each other as
> they were about the land area?
> That information was passed down to Moses possibly on clay tablets and
> in oral traditions and was written down by him as writing skills
> became known. .

....became known as the fairy stories and myths we now know them today.
-- 
A.
 




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Rational thought process vs creationist 'thought' processes
misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-04-29 01:13:14 
Re: Rational thought process vs creationist 'thought' processes
"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-04-29 14:49:52 
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Sean McHugh <seanm@[EM  2008-04-30 10:37:50 
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**Rowland Croucher** <  2008-04-30 10:50:59 
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Sean McHugh <seanm@[EM  2008-04-30 11:25:04 
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lynx <none@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-30 01:52:40 
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Barry OGrady <god_free  2008-04-30 13:52:09 
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lynx <none@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-30 07:34:57 
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Chris Bell <cbell@[EMA  2008-04-30 10:12:57 
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lynx <none@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-30 12:35:46 
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Chris Bell <cbell@[EMA  2008-04-30 23:37:40 
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Barry OGrady <god_free  2008-05-02 14:48:14 
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Barry OGrady <god_free  2008-04-30 13:49:52 
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lynx <none@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-30 07:37:32 
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Sean McHugh <seanm@[EM  2008-05-02 14:54:15 
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lynx <none@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-02 07:49:38 
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"Mark T" <sn  2008-05-02 19:38:38 
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lynx <none@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-02 10:05:34 
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"Mark T" <sn  2008-05-02 20:40:56 
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lynx <none@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-02 12:02:08 
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Sean McHugh <seanm@[EM  2008-05-02 20:21:10 
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lynx <none@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-02 12:13:05 
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Sean McHugh <seanm@[EM  2008-05-03 10:22:45 
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lynx <none@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-03 03:58:32 
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"Mark T" <sn  2008-05-03 15:52:06 
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lynx <none@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-03 06:22:09 
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"Mark T" <sn  2008-05-03 16:42:41 
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Sean McHugh <seanm@[EM  2008-05-04 10:50:48 
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lynx <none@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-04 01:30:43 
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Sean McHugh <seanm@[EM  2008-05-11 22:29:21 
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lynx <none@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-11 13:31:47 
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lynx <none@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-11 14:14:00 
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"Mark T" <sn  2008-05-12 09:47:40 
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**Rowland Croucher** <  2008-05-12 10:04:10 
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"Mark T" <sn  2008-05-12 10:13:28 
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lynx <none@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-12 01:24:51 
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lynx <none@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-12 01:17:20 
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Sean McHugh <seanm@[EM  2008-05-12 17:30:05 
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Chris Bell <cbell@[EMA  2008-05-11 23:24:47 
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**Rowland Croucher** <  2008-05-12 10:01:18 
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lynx <none@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-12 00:35:23 
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Sean McHugh <seanm@[EM  2008-05-20 19:31:52 
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Chris Bell <cbell@[EMA  2008-05-20 11:59:31 
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**Rowland Croucher** <  2008-05-21 23:11:58 
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"Mark T" <sn  2008-05-05 09:20:10 
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**Rowland Croucher** <  2008-05-08 12:31:25 
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Sean McHugh <seanm@[EM  2008-05-10 08:44:32 
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Sean McHugh <seanm@[EM  2008-05-10 09:00:07 
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"Mark T" <sn  2008-05-03 15:47:58 
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**Rowland Croucher** <  2008-05-08 10:12:04 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-12 01:26:28 
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Barry OGrady <god_free  2008-05-14 13:57:54 
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"Mark T" <sn  2008-04-30 11:05:17 
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**Rowland Croucher** <  2008-04-30 11:43:03 
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lynx <none@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-30 01:55:39 
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"Mark T" <sn  2008-04-30 12:59:41 
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lynx <none@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-30 07:31:54 
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"Mark T" <sn  2008-04-30 18:14:22 
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Barry OGrady <god_free  2008-04-30 13:53:54 
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Ross <rossnospamplease  2008-04-30 22:13:38 
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Sean McHugh <seanm@[EM  2008-05-01 00:22:07 
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"Mark T" <sn  2008-05-01 10:03:53 
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Sean McHugh <seanm@[EM  2008-04-30 11:44:35 
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Allistar <b@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-01 11:09:09 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-04-30 13:56:35 
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"Mark T" <sn  2008-05-01 10:08:55 
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misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-04-30 21:11:15 
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misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-04-30 21:19:01 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-04-30 22:54:01 
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Allistar <b@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-01 19:08:20 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-01 04:02:47 
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Allistar <b@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-02 09:57:15 
Re: Hell II (Was: Rational thought etc.)
misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-05-04 22:15:34 
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"Andrew Lamb" &  2008-05-09 10:52:44 
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lynx <none@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-09 05:40:11 
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Sean McHugh <seanm@[EM  2008-05-10 11:25:12 
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Chris Bell <cbell@[EMA  2008-05-11 23:35:34 
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Sean McHugh <seanm@[EM  2008-05-21 19:28:01 
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Sean McHugh <seanm@[EM  2008-05-21 19:42:16 
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Chris Bell <cbell@[EMA  2008-05-21 11:53:08 
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Barry OGrady <god_free  2008-05-12 14:19:16 
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misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-05-04 22:19:00 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-06 18:05:11 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-06 19:25:23 
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misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-05-07 18:24:18 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-07 20:38:07 
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misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-05-08 13:48:20 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-09 18:05:34 
Re: Hell II (Was: Rational thought etc.)
misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-05-11 17:34:27 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-11 20:31:42 
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misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-05-12 16:48:37 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-12 18:19:16 
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Chris Bell <cbell@[EMA  2008-05-13 01:32:51 
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James <bireda@[EMAIL P  2008-05-25 15:38:12 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-12 19:30:54 
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misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-05-12 20:19:54 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-12 20:53:47 
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theo <theo@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-13 16:59:30 
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misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-05-13 18:02:35 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-14 00:34:07 
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misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-05-14 18:05:26 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-14 20:39:38 
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misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-05-19 14:45:20 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-19 15:02:18 
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misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-05-19 21:49:50 
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misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-05-21 17:19:11 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-21 17:49:23 
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theo <theo@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-21 19:31:44 
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misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-05-21 20:59:38 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-21 22:02:31 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-21 22:26:43 
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Chris Bell <cbell@[EMA  2008-05-22 06:27:56 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-22 03:27:26 
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Chris Bell <cbell@[EMA  2008-05-22 11:49:48 
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misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-05-22 17:27:12 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-22 18:50:59 
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misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-05-22 22:19:16 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-23 03:04:49 
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misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-05-23 15:36:12 
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"swa@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-23 19:04:49 
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misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-05-24 01:45:47 

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