Athanasius wrote:
> On Apr 30, 8:12 pm, "(: Lawrence :)" <lmec...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> On Apr 30, 11:48 am, Athanasius <dcn_athanas...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>> Indeed, sometimes some people think that I will back down from the
>>> Orthodox position.
>>>
>> You won't back down.. but you fail to see the obvious in holding onto
>> the Orthodox position with dear life as you have adequately
>> demonstrated ad nauseam with your leaps to legalese whenever you get
>> your status with them threatened. You have a tell, and it's
>> interesting to see in action.
>>
>>> Why they think I would do that escapes me.
>>>
>> Because it is God.. not the Orthodox, Holy Tradition or Scripture..
>> that saves people..
>>
>> Obvious, innit ?
>>
>
> Obvious you separate God from His Church. His Church does not make the
> same mistake.
>
>> The more you place value in the transient values of institutions, the
>> more you lose the capacity to love your neighbour outside those
>> institutions as conformity/peer pressure to be part of the institution
>> ends up being more im****tant than love or life to those outside the
>> Church as you know it. Jesus said the Temple would be destroyed. The
>> Orthodox is just another form of Temple wor****p, like every other
>> institution. The people inside and outside the institution matter to
>> God, regardless of whatever light or darkness they are going through.
>>
>
> Christ stated His Church will remain forever, so another wrong
> assumption about it being transient. Therefore any argument based on
> the misconception will be flawed.
>
>> What did St Paul say wouldn't pass away ? Love. It never fails. Never
>> gives up. Remains faithful.
>>
>
> Yep. The same St Paul rebuked homo***uality, liars, adultery and
> heretical false religion, :-)
>
> Love never fails. Love does not keep silent -when genuine people are
> inquiring- Love rebukes when mockers -believe- they have a point.
> Sometime love remains silent when it is faced with evil (eg: Jesus
> Christ before herod).
>
> We remember that our Lord Jesus was the absolute embodiment of God's
> love, yet He Himself rebuked religious fakery and pride emersed in its
> ego. Those who had done so had two choices, to repent or to attack.
> They attacked with lies and misquoting Him..."He said He would destroy
> this temple...."
>
Exactly. Jesus threw the moneychangers from the temple. (for example) A
loving parent does not let their child do whatever it wants. A loving
parent, disciplines, chastises, and punishes their child if necessary.
Lawrence thinks that love means never taking a stand on anything.
> Christ has taught His apostles and Church how to love. I am sorry that
> you have never yet experienced that Lawrence.
>
> There is still time though.
>
> Peace.
>
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rgds,
Pete
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