Chris Bell wrote:
> Mark T wrote:
>> "lynx" <none@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>> <re-organised for logical purposes>
>>
>>> Hey Bazz.. let's see if Morkie can answer your questions.
>>
>>
>> I'll have a try.
>>
>>
> *lots of good stuff snipped - well answered Mark!*
>
>>
>> I don't believe God exists.
>>
>> God is the ground of all existence and being and not an existent being.
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> from John A T Robinson, Bishop of Woolwich, 'Honest To God'
>> (SCM, London: 1963)
>>
>> ********************
>>
>> God, [Paul] Tillich was saying, is not a projection 'out there', an
>> Other
>> beyond the skies, of whose existence we have to convince ourselves,
>> but the Ground of our very Being. pp. 22
>>
>>
>> God is, by definition, ultimate reality. And one cannot argue whether
>> ultimate reality really exists. One can only ask what ultimate
>> reality is
>> like ... Thus, the fundamental theological question is not in
>> establi****ng
>> the 'existence' of God as a separate entity but in pressing through in
>> ultimate concern to what Tillich calls 'the ground of our being'.. p.
29
>>
>>
>> God is not 'out there'. He is in Bonhoeffer's words ' the "beyond" in
>> the
>> midst of our life', a depth of reality reached ' not on the borders
>> of life
>> but at its centre', not by any flight of the alone to the alone, but,
in
>> Kierkegaard's fine phrase, by ' a deeper immersion in existence'.
>> For the word 'God' denotes the ultimate depth of all our being, the
>> creative ground and meaning of all our existence. ...Tillich warns
>> us that to make the necessary transposition, 'you must forget
>> everything traditional that you have learned about God, perhaps even
>> that word itself.' p. 47
>>
>>
>> ... the beginning is to try to be honest - and to go on from there.
>> p. 141
>>
>>
>> **************
>
> I actually still go along with the concept that "God is dead" as put
> about by various theologians twenty years or so ago. Our understanding
> of God has changed so much (but also so little) in the last century,
> but more so our understanding of what it is to be human has changed.
or .. we change God according to how we change. Rowland keeps God
updated on his website. You'll need internet access to keep informed of
the ever changing God.
> You are right that God does not exist, but God is our existence. You
> must be able to accept paradox as the basis of faith, and that is what
> the literalists like Barry and Pete find so difficult.
>
> Chris
>
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rgds,
Pete
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