"flower of romance" <flowers@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "lorax666" <yronwode.com@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> you could just switch allegiances to a different
>> god. that way the "sin" set would also change.
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> you could. some of us did.
There is another way to see this. Let us say that your God is the Cosmos
itself - or the dark force in nature. Let us say that this god has only
what is absolutely and literally true to tell us. This is what this god
says:
1. Nothing is good or bad unless you think it is good or bad.
2. All things are permitted, the only exceptions being purely physical
ones.
(I.e., you are not permitted to breathe water because, as a human, you
simply can't do that. You are not permitted to walk through a wall,
because
as a being made of matter, you can't.)
That's it. Nothing else.
Now, one might ask why have a god at all, if those are the only 2 things
told to you by this god? Well, heh, if a GOD said it and it's written in
a
BOOK - then heh - you know how the rest of that goes. What kind of
society
would we have? Maybe no society? Anarchy leads to gangs - I won't even
debate that no-brainer.
However, in time, people would get the idea that "tit for tat" doesn't
always work out, even if the gang were doing tit for tat (that's, more or
less, a kind of golden rule that not just humans tend to follow - there is
more cooperation in the animal world than there is competition). Someone
might get the other idea that "well, if EVERYONE did this thing, what
would
happen?" And what might happen might seriously suck. Or it might be
seriously good.
Someone would come along and claim that this God had 3 rules, or 4, or 5 -
and you know how that goes. They'd be laws - with a bit of that emphasis
for those that need it: the old "GOD said it."
On the other hand, if someone, some person with brute force and a
following,
decides that something is good for him and his gang and **** everyone else
-
that person could also come up with rules 6, 7, 8 and so forth - and
enforce
those rules until, eventually, in a few generations - nobody knows that
anything changed - and this new regime becomes the status quo.
I have a very good reason, one on one, to know HOW such things end up
turning out - and that's from personal experience of seeing it literally
happen with something amoral and 100% individualistic. In the hands of
other people, even THAT can become something very different. Personally
seen it.
So let us say that humans evolved out of the need for any gods. Then
they'd
have "the ruler" and what "the ruler said" - i.e., laws. Ok, the
congress.
The house of reps. Oooo, the Supreme Court (9 ****ing people in black
robes - HOH sound familiar?). Doesn't matter if the laws are just or not.
Some of our laws are ridiculous - stupid beyond measure. But nonetheless,
almost impossible to overturn even if the majority wants them overturned -
and this is SUPPOSED to be a gov of, by, and for the people. Yeah, how
long
did THAT last? Not long.
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>> nocTifer
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