On Aug 23, 2:50 pm, annick.regna...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> On 22 ago, 19:03, Mambo Racine Sans Bout <Racine...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > On Aug 21, 11:39 pm, sout...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
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> > > Poor soul, this "MaMbo Kathy" who cannot even spell the name of
Manbo!
> > > but may dance the mambo dance...
>
> > Honey, listen. If you want to spell "Mambo" your way,
> > fine! I am not emotional about it.
>
> > > My last statement will be that those poor initiates will have
learned
> > > a hard lesson. One chooses her or his spiritual father or mother and
> > > they should have inquired on the credentials of "Mambo Kathy". it's
> > > all on the internet, particularly in this group.
>
> > And what "credentials" do I lack? After my twenty
> > years in Haiti, in various professional capacities,
> > and my seventeen of those years as a Mambo, I
> > think you could have a little respect. You don't have
> > to agree with me, but you could try to at least
> > respect your own self enough to be polite.
>
> > How is what you are doing helping Mambo Lisa
> > Gruber and Houngan Louvel Delon? Are you
> > contributing to their legal defense?
>
> > > My spiritual brother is Max Beauvoir who she accused of being a
> > > "makout" (by Racine)...
>
> > Well, SURE he was! Lots of people were. My first
> > initiatory Houngan, Luc Gedeon, was Mayor of Grand
> > Goave, so I am guessing he got along with everyone,
> > right?
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> > > he was invited for breakfast at the table of Ban Ki Moon, the United
> > > Nations General Secretary, who just succeeded Kofi Annan. With him
was
> > > his spokeswoman: Mich=E8le Montas, widow of the famous journalist
Jean
> > > Dominique.
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> > I am very happy for him. The more good publicity
> > Vodou gets, the better for all of us. The more
> > bad publicity you and your ilk heap on our
> > religion, the worse for all of us.
>
> > > Where is Racine? enjoying "a week of warm surf
> > > and warm sand and fresh lobster and rum and
> > > Coke and snapper and banan peze,"...
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> > Deosn't it just piss you off? I mean, there you
> > are, all miserable, and I was all set to have a nice
> > week on the beach with my significant other.
> > Having to give up that time to help my initiates
> > was a sacrifice, it's true.
>
> > > Claiming that she ordained manbo and hougan the two unfortunate
> > > individuals and other times saying the following: "I gave them a
> > > KANZO, a Vodou initiation,"
>
> > That's correct, a kanzo, or Vodou initiation, is
> > the ceremony by which clergy, that is Houngans
> > and Mambos sur point, and Houngans and
> > Mambos asogwe, are ordained; as well as hounsis.
> > You are aware that "ordination" refers to the creation
> > of priests and priestesses, right?
>
> > > A lot of bull****.
>
> > > soutini
>
> > So eloquent. How are your comments helping
> > Mambo Lisa Gruber and Houngan Louvel Delon?
>
> > It astonishes me with what readiness the Haitian
> > courts, in a Vodouisant majority country, give Vodou
> > a black eye! Criminalizing our clergy and making
> > contraband of our sacred artifacts is not the
> > way to go.
>
> > Houngan Luckner St. Louis, who instructed
> > Houngan Louvel Delon and Mambo Lisa Gruber
> > in ancestral service, is a Haitian Houngan asogwe!
> > His father is a bokor! His aunt is a maman
> > hounyo. The entire family is solidly Vodouisant,
> > like MOST Haitian families.
>
> > There is no criminal intent on the part of any
> > of the Vodou clergy involved! Houngan Luckner
> > didn't kill anyone, didn't desecrate any graves,
> > didn't steal and sell kidneys. Houngan Louvel
> > and Mambo Lisa didn't buy body parts, weren't
> > trying to smuggle their sacred skulls, didn't
> > attempt to hide them - far from it, they said, "YES,
> > those are ours, and we are a Houngan and
> > Mambo, behold our sacred necklaces still
> > on us!"
>
> > If those two Americans didn't love Haiti they
> > wouldn't have come there. They are not in
> > prison for doing anything evil, on the contrary,
> > if they didn't so much love Vodou, if Houngan
> > Louvel wasn't so proud of his Haitian ancestry,
> > they wouldn't be where they are now!
>
> > Those two should never be punished for
> > practicing a religion older than Christianity,
> > older than Islam. They should be immediately
> > released, apologized to, lionized in the
> > media, conducted to a good hotel, bathed
> > and scrubbed, fed, and then taken at
> > their convenience to the air****t.
>
> > Peace and love,
>
> > Mambo Racine
>
> > The VODOU Page -http://members.aol.com/racine125/index.html
>
> Pour mon ami Kafou:
>
> J'ai lu r=E9cemment dans une revue d'art qu'un "grand artiste", de ceux
> qui vendent le plus cher du monde leurs oeuvres ,avait expos=E9 =E0 la
> Tate =E0 Londres un cr=E2ne humain enti=E8rement recouvert de
Diamonds...=
des
> milliers et des milliers....De qui =E9tait ce cr=E2ne.?..Il para=EEt que
> "l'oeuvre "est d=E9j=E0 vendue pour des millions et des millions de
> dollards.Alors tu vois...l'ind=E9cence , elle est o=F9?-
Tr=E8s int=E9ressant. En voici le lien Annick...
http://rue89.com/2007/06/21/expo-damien-hirst-londres
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