On May 20, 1:55=A0am, NickYoungh <dejonghn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On 20 mei, 06:39, Sword of Laban <mormoni...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > World Book Encyclopedia.
> >Zeus, pronounced zoos, was the ruler of the gods in Greek mythology.
> >Zeuswas a sky and weather god, especially associated with rain,
> > thunder, and lightning. The Greeks believed he was all-knowing and
all-
> > seeing. The Greeks consideredZeusa father figure and a protector,
> > especially of guests and strangers. The Roman god Jupiter was
> > equivalent toZeus(see JUPITER).
>
> Very interesting, but where are the related BoM verses that showZeus
> was a lookalike of the Mormon God ?
Excellent connection made!
1) The Mormon father god is named Elohim.
The God who is the Father of the spirits of all mankind and who
resides in heaven (and is rightfully referred to as our Father in
heaven or as our Heavenly Father) has been given a name-title by
Latter-day Saints: Elohim. The name title Elohim does not appear in
any English scripture; it is a transliteration of the Hebrew word for
Gods. A Companion to Study of the Doctrine and Covenants, Daniel H.
Ludlow, 1978.
Correction: Elohim is the plural title of God not the name of God. In
contrast, elowah is the singular title for God and is never coupled
with the tetragrammaton in Hebrew Scripture. Elohim is used as an
adjective for the tetragrammaton 915 times in the Hebrew Scriptures.
Genesis 2:4-6 This is the history of the heavens and the earth when
they were created, in the day that the LORD God (YHWH elohim) made the
earth and the heavens, before any plant of the field was in the earth
and before any herb of the field had grown. For the LORD God (YHWH
elohim) had not caused it to rain on the earth, and there was no man
to till the ground; but a mist went up from the earth and watered the
whole face of the ground.
2) The Mormon father god did not create the universe but organized
existing matter.
In a revelation given June 1, 1833, the Lord referred to himself as
"the Lord of Sabaoth, which is by interpretation, the creator of the
first day, the beginning and the end" (D&C 95:7; italics added). In a
doctrinal exposition by the First Presidency and Twelve Apostles in
1916, the meaning of the term creator was explained: "The Creator is
an Organizer. God created the earth as an organized sphere; but He
certainly did not create, in the sense of bringing into primal
existence, the ultimate elements of the materials of which the earth
consists, for 'the elements are eternal' Jesus Christ, whom we also
know as Jehovah, was the executive of the Father, Elohim, in the work
of creation.... He is very properly called the Eternal Father of
heaven and earth." (MFP 5:26-27; see also Talmage, 32-41.) Ancient
Apostles and prophets also understood this concept, such as John (John
1:3), King Benjamin (Mosiah 3:8), and Samuel the Lamanite (Hel.
14:12). Doctrines and Covenants Encyclopedia, Hoyt W. Brewster, 1996.
Correction: Matter is not eternal but was created by God from nothing.
The Hebrew word "bara" is defined as create in the absolute sense.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created (bara) the heavens and the
earth.
3) The Mormon father god has a body of flesh and bones.
The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man's; the Son
also; but the Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a
personage of Spirit. Were it not so, the Holy Ghost could not dwell in
us. Doctrines and Covenants 130:22.
Correction: God the Father is Spirit.
Numbers 23:19 "God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a son of man,
that He should repent. Has He said, and will He not do? Or has He
spoken, and will He not make it good?"
1 Samuel 15:29 "And also the Strength of Israel will not lie nor
relent. For He is not a man, that He should relent."
Job 9:32 "For He is not a man, as I am, that I may answer Him, and
that we should go to court together."
John 4:24 "God is Spirit, and those who wor****p Him must wor****p in
spirit and truth."
4) The Mormon father god lives near a planet named Kolob.
Kolob means "the first creation." It is the name of the planet
"nearest to the celestial, or the residence of God." It is "first in
government, the last pertaining to the measurement of time. . . . One
day in Kolob is equal to a thousand years according to the measurement
of this earth." (Book of Abraham, pp. 34-35; Abra. 3:3-9.) Mormon
Doctrine, Bruce R. McConkie, 1966.
Correction: Kolob is a fictional planet invented by Joseph Smith.
Isaiah 66:1 Thus says the LORD: "Heaven is My throne, and earth is My
footstool."
Matthew 5:34-35 "But I say to you, do not swear at all: neither by
heaven, for it is God's throne; nor by the earth, for it is His
footstool; nor by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King."
5) The Mormon father god has a partner known as mother god or queen of
heaven.
This doctrine that there is a Mother in Heaven was affirmed in
plainness by the First Presidency of the Church (Joseph F. Smith, John
R. Winder, and Anthon H. Lund) when, in speaking of pre-existence and
the origin of man, they said that "man, as a spirit, was begotten and
born of heavenly parents, and reared to maturity in the eternal
mansions of the Father," that man is the "offspring of celestial
parentage," and that "all men and women are in the similitude of the
universal Father and Mother and are literally the sons and daughters
of Deity." (Man: Origin and Destiny, pp. 348-355.) Mormon Doctrine,
Bruce R. McConkie, 1966.
O Mormonism! Thy father is God, thy mother is the Queen of heaven, and
so thy whole history, from eternity to eternity, is the laws,
ordinances and truth of the "Gods" embracing the simple plan of
salvation, sanctification, death, resurrection, glorification and
exaltation of man, from infancy to age, from age to eternity, from
simplicity to sublimity: from faith, repentance, baptism, reception of
the Holy Ghost by the laying on of the hands, to wa****ng, anointing,
holy conversation, baptism for the dead, to the presence of angels,
the general assembly and church of the first born; to the unspeakable
glory of seeing God and the Lamb, and to spirits of just men, made
perfect, and to be ordained unto eternal life! Times and Seasons,
January 1, 1844.
Correction: Pagans believe in a Mother god and wor****p her as queen of
heaven.
Jeremiah 44:15-22 Then all the men who knew that their wives had
burned incense to other gods, with all the women who stood by, a great
multitude, and all the people who dwelt in the land of Egypt, in
Pathros, answered Jeremiah, saying: "As for the word that you have
spoken to us in the name of the LORD, we will not listen to you! But
we will certainly do whatever has gone out of our own mouth, to burn
incense to the queen of heaven and pour out drink offerings to her, as
we have done, we and our fathers, our kings and our princes, in the
cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem. For then we had
plenty of food, were well-off, and saw no trouble. But since we
stopped burning incense to the queen of heaven and pouring out drink
offerings to her, we have lacked everything and have been consumed by
the sword and by famine." The women also said, "And when we burned
incense to the queen of heaven and poured out drink offerings to her,
did we make cakes for her, to wor****p her, and pour out drink
offerings to her without our husbands' permission?" Then Jeremiah
spoke to all the people; the men, the women, and all the people who
had given him that answer; saying: "The incense that you burned in the
cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem, you and your fathers,
your kings and your princes, and the people of the land, did not the
LORD remember them, and did it not come into His mind? So the LORD
could no longer bear it, because of the evil of your doings and
because of the abominations which you committed. Therefore your land
is a desolation, an astonishment, a curse, and without an inhabitant,
as it is this day.
6) The Mormon father god had physical *** with Mary to produce Jesus
Christ.
Elder James E. Talmage has written: "That Child born of Mary was
begotten of Elohim, the Eternal Father, not in violation of natural
law but in accordance with a higher manifestation thereof; and the
offspring from that association of supreme sanctity, celestial
Sire****p, and pure though mortal maternity, was of right to be called
the 'Son of the Highest'" (Talmage, 81).
Doctrines and Covenants Encyclopedia, Hoyt W. Brewster, 1996.
Correction: Mary did not have physical *** with the Mormon god elohim.
Matthew 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: After His
mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she
was found with child of the Holy Spirit.
Matthew 1:20 But while he thought about these things, behold, an angel
of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, "Joseph, son of David,
do not be afraid to take to you Mary your wife, for that which is
conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit."
Luke 1:34-35 Then Mary said to the angel, "How can this be, since I do
not know a man?" And the angel answered and said to her, "The Holy
Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will
overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will
be called the Son of God."
7) The Mormon father god is one of three Mormon gods.
Joseph Smith taught in 1844, "I have always declared God to be a
distinct personage, Jesus Christ a separate and distinct personage
from God the Father, and that the Holy Ghost was a distinct personage
and a Spirit: and these three constitute three distinct personages and
three Gods." Here was sound and solid doctrine, doctrine which the
Prophet assures us he had always taught, doctrine which was consistent
and in harmony with the teachings of the Book of Mormon. Neither
Joseph Smith nor the prophets in the Book of Mormon taught
"trinitarian" doctrines, for such were false and a part of those
religious creeds which the Lord himself declared to be "an abomination
in his sight" (Joseph Smith History 1:19). Book of Mormon Symposium
Series, 1988.
Correction: There is one God not three Mormon gods.
Isaiah 43:10 "You are My witnesses," says the LORD, "and My servant
whom I have chosen, that you may know and believe Me, and understand
that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, nor shall there be
after Me.
James 2:19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the
demons believe; and tremble!
Note: The one true God is manifested as distinct persons.
Genesis 1:26 Then God (singular) said, "Let Us (plural) make man in
Our (plural) image, according to Our (plural) likeness; let them have
dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over
the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that
creeps on the earth."
Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one
(echad)!"
Note: The Hebrew word "echad" is defined as "grouping of one."
John 10:30-31 "I and My Father are one." Then the Jews took up stones
again to stone Him.
John 10:33 The Jews answered Him, saying, "For a good work we do not
stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make
Yourself God."
Matthew 28:19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations,
baptizing them in the name (singular) of the Father and of the Son and
of the Holy Spirit."
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