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Re: THE ANTHROPIC GOD OF RUSSIA

by George Hammond <Nowhere1@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 11, 2008 at 04:36 PM

On Sun, 11 May 2008 10:30:37 GMT, George Hammond
<Nowhere1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

               =  NOTE TO HECKLERS =
         PLEASE KEEP OFF THIS THREAD
   My last discussion thread ran to 600 posts
       mainly due to heckling by psychos.
     This is an egregious waste of bandwidth.
        Please have some consideration
              for the rights of others.
================================

            THE ANTHROPIC GOD OF RUSSIA
   The phrase "anthropic principle" was coined by the
theoretical astrophysicist Brandon Carter, in his
contribution to a 1973 Kraków symposium honoring
Copernicus's 500th birthday.
  The late and great Princeton physicist J.A. Wheeler was by
the way personally instrumental in persuading Carter to
announce the discovery.
   However, it appears that a prominent Russian cosmologist
the late Abraham Zelmanov was actually the first scientist
to actually discover the Anthropic Principle:

http://www.ptep-online.com/index_files/2006/PP-04-06.PDF

   In this 2006 description of his work by Dmitri Rabounski
we learn that Zelamnov discovered the Anthropic Principle in
the 1940's and recorded it in a manuscript only recently
published but many of his colleagues knew about the
discovery.
   At any rate, what is of interest here is that Hammond has
pointed out that an obvious consequence of the AP is the
fact that if Man did not exist, then the Universe would not
exist.  Hence the AP is actually the scientific foundation
of the phenomenology of "God" so called.
   While Hammond has been roundly criticized because Carter
never explicitly pointed this out; it turns out that
Zelamnov explicitly did; he says:

	"IF NO OBSERVERS EXIST THEN
	 THE OBSERVABLE UNIVERSE
	 AS WELL DOES NOT EXIST"
                       (A. Zelmanov
                        1940, loc cit)

   I would point out that Zelamanov was a very prominent
scientist at the Sternberg Astronomical Institute in Moscow,
and once introduced Stephen Hawking in one of his seminars
as a "promising young cosmologist" and Hawking read a brief
re****t at one of his seminars.

   So for the record:  It certainly is obvious to modern
Physics that

       Since the observer "creates" the Universe,
       and that observer is Man.  And since Man
       is only 200,000 years old, the (Biblical)
       Creation must have occurred 200k years ago!

   I therefore cite one of Russia's most prominent
physicists who was a colleague and peer of Stephen Hawking,
as CONFIRMING with that scientific opinion.

=====================================
     SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
 http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
   mirror site:
 http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
      GOD=G_uv   (a folk song on mp3)
 http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
=====================================
 




 33 Posts in Topic:
Re: THE ANTHROPIC GOD OF RUSSIA
George Hammond <Nowher  2008-05-11 16:36:11 
Re: THE ANTHROPIC GOD OF RUSSIA
Nicko <nervous.nick@[E  2008-05-11 13:28:31 
Re: THE ANTHROPIC GOD OF RUSSIA
George Hammond <Nowher  2008-05-12 02:11:41 
Re: THE ANTHROPIC GOD OF RUSSIA
"Paul Hovnanian P.E.  2008-05-11 17:19:21 
Re: THE ANTHROPIC GOD OF RUSSIA
George Hammond <Nowher  2008-05-12 02:12:35 
Re: THE ANTHROPIC GOD OF RUSSIA
"Paul Hovnanian P.E.  2008-05-12 11:31:18 
Re: THE ANTHROPIC GOD OF RUSSIA
George Hammond <Nowher  2008-05-12 19:22:37 
Re: THE ANTHROPIC GOD OF RUSSIA
"Paul Hovnanian P.E.  2008-05-12 18:42:47 
Re: THE ANTHROPIC GOD OF RUSSIA
George Hammond <Nowher  2008-05-13 01:48:32 
Re: Waste of Internet Bandwidth Annoying Crackpot Notice
Ken <flakey714@[EMAIL   2008-05-11 18:05:27 
Re: THE ANTHROPIC GOD OF RUSSIA
Cormagh <cookleon@[EMA  2008-05-13 11:10:02 
Re: THE ANTHROPIC GOD OF RUSSIA
George Hammond <Nowher  2008-05-13 23:16:44 
Re: THE ANTHROPIC GOD OF RUSSIA
pete <pfiland@[EMAIL P  2008-05-13 19:08:03 
Re: THE ANTHROPIC GOD OF RUSSIA
George Hammond <Nowher  2008-05-13 23:59:37 
Re: THE ANTHROPIC GOD OF RUSSIA
"Paul Hovnanian P.E.  2008-05-14 11:15:28 
Re: THE ANTHROPIC GOD OF RUSSIA
pete <pfiland@[EMAIL P  2008-05-15 04:10:23 
Re: THE ANTHROPIC GOD OF RUSSIA
theBeaver <theBeaver@[  2008-05-18 15:13:51 
Re: THE ANTHROPIC GOD OF RUSSIA
George Hammond <Nowher  2008-05-19 07:06:06 
Re: THE ANTHROPIC GOD OF RUSSIA
theBeaver <theBeaver@[  2008-05-19 11:27:39 
Re: THE ANTHROPIC GOD OF RUSSIA
George Hammond <Nowher  2008-05-19 16:48:20 
Re: THE ANTHROPIC GOD OF RUSSIA
"Paul Hovnanian P.E.  2008-05-19 19:31:04 
Re: THE ANTHROPIC GOD OF RUSSIA
Ken <flakey714@[EMAIL   2008-05-19 09:58:12 
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Lanny Budda <no@[EMAIL  2008-05-19 19:12:09 
Re: THE GOD OF RUSSIA
Nasti J <njgillmom@[EM  2008-05-20 10:19:17 
Re: THE GOD OF RUSSIA
John D Salt <jdsalt_AT  2008-05-20 14:25:56 
Re: THE GOD OF RUSSIA
George Hammond <Nowher  2008-05-21 10:23:26 
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George Hammond <Nowher  2008-05-21 18:00:20 
Re: THE GOD OF RUSSIA
Nasti J <njgillmom@[EM  2008-05-20 22:50:55 
Re: THE GOD OF RUSSIA
John D Salt <jdsalt_AT  2008-05-21 10:56:15 
Re: THE GOD OF RUSSIA
barbara@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-21 12:36:20 
Re: THE GOD OF RUSSIA
Nasti J <njgillmom@[EM  2008-05-21 08:42:58 
Re: THE GOD OF RUSSIA
Ken <flakey714@[EMAIL   2008-05-21 09:59:03 
Re: THE GOD OF RUSSIA
sandi <sandysand@[EMAI  2008-05-21 12:26:45 

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