reverend maxwell snort wrote:
> On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 11:05:13 -0500, Spot wrote:
>
>> BJ Honeycut wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu 01 Mar 2007 10:48:20p, "InkstainedPsyche"
>>> <inkstndpsyche@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> took the time to tell us all in
>>> news:1172807314.63437@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>> In news:pan.2007.03.02.02.20.37.790044@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> reverend maxwell snort <me@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> took a deep breath, sighed and
>>>> spoke thusly:
>>>>> On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:47:42 -0800, InkstainedPsyche wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In news:Xns98E6CE826E268vincentvangogh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>> BJ Honeycut <freak@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> took a deep breath,
>>>>>> sighed and spoke thusly:
>>>>>>> On Thu 01 Mar 2007 07:28:02p, "InkstainedPsyche"
>>>>>>> <inkstndpsyche@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> took the time to tell us all in
>>>>>>> news:1172795295.562104@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In news:Xns98E6C15E27BC4vincentvangogh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>> BJ Honeycut <freak@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> took a deep breath,
>>>>>>>> sighed
>>>>>>>> and spoke thusly:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu 01 Mar 2007 06:56:57p, "InkstainedPsyche"
>>>>>>>>> <inkstndpsyche@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> took the time to tell us all in
>>>>>>>>> news:1172793430.329083@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In news:Xns98E6B85EA6BBAvincentvangogh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>> BJ Honeycut <freak@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> took a deep breath,
>>>>>>>>>> sighed and spoke thusly:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu 01 Mar 2007 06:17:06p, "InkstainedPsyche"
>>>>>>>>>>> <inkstndpsyche@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> took the time to tell us all in
>>>>>>>>>>> news:1172791039.283384@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In news:Xns98E6B30975904vincentvangogh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>>>> BJ Honeycut <freak@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> took a deep
breath,
>>>>>>>>>>>> sighed and spoke thusly:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please don't respond to spammers...it just gives ststistical
>>>>>>>>>>>>> probability that they will hit more and kill the group.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How long have you been posting to this newsgroup? I've been
>>>>>>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>>>>>>> off and on since 2001 and we're still here, even though we
>>>>>>>>>>>> play with the scammers the way a cat plays with a mouse.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't worry, be happy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've been here sice 1999, but only posted since 2002.
>>>>>>>>>>> e no worry, just cuatious.. bad typer too.<G>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> pshaw, throw caution to the winds, my friend. If WKP didn't
>>>>>>>>>> kill us, nothing can.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please don't compare my screwups to his blatant malice. ;-) I do
>>>>>>>>> have to say that, I am not, but my wife is a mormon too. My
>>>>>>>>> beliefs
>>>>>>>>> are here in the archives I think. Raised catholic, Somewhat
>>>>>>>>> Christian, but primarily Taoist.I figure as long as you believe
>>>>>>>>> in SOMETHING you are on the right track.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh, there was no comparing of you to him. Simply that if WKP
>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>> kill us, scammers couldn't either.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've learned to deal with religious persecution. I wasn't raised
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> this faith, I chose it myself as an adult.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Same with Cheryl, she was raised UU.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So...how can I put this, is she still active at church? And it
>>>>>> hasn't rubbed off on you? Not that I don't know plenty of people in
>>>>>> the same situation where one is a member and one is not. I don't
>>>>>> think I could handle that myself.
>>>>>
>>>>> meet BJ Honeycut.
>>>>
>>>> Some people can, but it would make me sad and I would always want to
>>>> change the other person, even though I know that change has to come
>>>> within. It's simply a matter of the whole belief system and what
>>>> eternity supposed to be like from an LDS point of view.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I understand that, I am of the mindset that it is an intensely
personal
>>> thing. My grandfather, when sppeaking to my Dad before he married Mom,
>>> said something to the effect of " I know you are Catholic and we are
>>> Baptist, but if we are lucky enough to get to heaven, there won't be
>>> separate places for different religions." That may seem at odds with
the
>>> fundamentals of some church doctrine but feels right to me.
>>
>> Sounds about right to me too. After all; Jews, Christians, Mormons and
>> Muslims all acknowledge the God of Abraham as the Lord God. Atta and
his
>> boys all prayed to the God of Abraham before they flew those planes
into
>> their targets in an effort to rid the world of evil. It was intensely
>> personal to them.
>>
>> Who is this god that is referred to as Lord God? Master of the gods?
Who
>> were these other gods that he was lord over? If you aren't aware that
>> there were other gods, read the first page of the Bible and you will
see
>> that the "gods" created man. This little line should make that clear;
>> "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness." Turn the page and
>> suddenly you find a god call the Lord God; the one that created Adam
and
>> Eve etc.
>>
>> What happened to those other gods? Did he kill them?
>
> now, I just looked up the bible on line, and you said the first page. I
> see this lead character, named "God". He's creating all of creation.
All
> of Genesis 1 goes on about what he created. In Genesis 2:1-3, he
finishes
> up, and has a little dinner, maybe. Then in Genesis 2:4, it does start
in
> with the "Lord, God" business:
The translations we have use the singular form but there's a clue in 1:26
where this entity uses the word "our" twice. The translators must have
missed that. We get reminded again in chapter three after the incident at
the tree when this entity remarks that now we are like them. It seems we
learned something that we were not supposed to know. Whatever it is it's
big cuz the reaction was quite extreme. The reason given for this
excessive
anger was not because we were disobedient; the reason given is because of
this knowledge we came upon. What is it?
> 4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they
> were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the
> heavens,
>
> Which doesn't make much sense by itself, but it's not a complete
> sentence, anyway. here's the rest of the sentence, Genesis 2:5...
The numbers do help but they get in the way sometimes because of the way
they divide up certain parts.
> 5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every
herb
> of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain
> upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
>
> So, if I read further, and get a complete sentence, it reads like God's
> getting ready to switch from being the creator of all this stuff just
> sitting there not doing anything yet, waiting on rain, and a man to
"till
> the ground", to being the ruler over the man tilling the ground, and
since
> I've read ahead even further, making almost all of it available for the
> man to use. Basically, it reads like he created all this stuff, and then
> set himself up as the ruler, or master, or lord over it all.
Almost like a rancher would do with the intent of harvesting the herd at
some later time.
> I don't find references to "gods", plural, until Moses and the
> commandment about having no other gods before Him. "Father, Son, and
Holy
> Ghost" might count, as well.
Yes, even the wording of what is called the ten commandments show traces
of
other gods. Why didn't this particular god just say you better not wor****p
another god? But the first commandment clearly references other gods. My
hunch is that "someone" tried to purge these other gods from the text but
wasn't able to complete the job. What are we missing? Lost books?
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