Re: ATHEISM - A Side-Effect of Religious Stupidity

SongBookz wrote:
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> "DanielSan" <danielsan1977@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> SongBookz wrote:
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>>> "DanielSan" <danielsan1977@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> SongBookz wrote:
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>>>>> Certainly it is, atheism believes no god caused the universe nor 
>>>>> determines its purpose.  To believe something is not is still
belief.
>>>>
>>>> Except, atheism does no such thing.  Atheism is simply, and I'll say 
>>>> it again in hopes it'll sink in, lack of belief in deities.  
>>>> Anything else --  anything at all -- is not part of atheism.  
>>>> Atheists themselves may subscribe to various other doctrines 
>>>> (humanism, zen, etc), but it is a property of THEM, not a property 
>>>> of ATHEISM.
>>>>
>>>> Get it?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, I get it - since as you say, atheism does not believe that no 
>>> god caused the universe, then what remains is atheists believe that 
>>> one or more god(s) caused the universe meaning atheists are really 
>>> theists rendering "atheism" moot.
>>
>> No.  I'll try once again...and only one more time:
>>
>> Atheism does not believe that god caused the universe.  Atheism does 
>> not believe that no god caused the universe.  Atheism does not even 
>> address the subject.  The only subject that atheism addresses is the 
>> "belief in deities" and the lack thereof.
>>
>> If you want to discuss the origins of the universe, the origin of 
>> life, or how the current lifeforms came to be, then you're going to go 
>> outside the *V*E*R*Y* limited scope that "atheism" is.
>>
>> Do you understand?
>>
> 
> Of course not.  

I thought so.

> Atheism does not address gods, it only addresses deities

....and the lack of belief in them.  (Hint: "gods" and "deities" are 
synonyms)  It does NOT talk about the creation of the universe.

> ... your semantics are self contrdictory.
> 
> Let me try to make it simple for you.
> 
> Dick believes a god created the universe.
> Jane believes that no god created the universe.
> Sally believes that one can't know if a god created the universe or not.
> 
> Sally, Dick and Jane all expressed a religious belief.

And none of them have expressed atheism.

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