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Re: ATHEISM - A Side-Effect of Religious Stupidity

by DanielSan <danielsan1977@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 14, 2008 at 08:31 PM

SongBookz wrote:
> 
> "DanielSan" <danielsan1977@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:Toydne4Y-oE8NLbVnZ2dnUVZ_trinZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> SongBookz wrote:
>>>
> 
>>>
>>> Certainly it is, atheism believes no god caused the universe nor 
>>> determines its purpose.  To believe something is not is still belief.
>>
>> Except, atheism does no such thing.  Atheism is simply, and I'll say 
>> it again in hopes it'll sink in, lack of belief in deities.  Anything 
>> else --  anything at all -- is not part of atheism.  Atheists 
>> themselves may subscribe to various other doctrines (humanism, zen, 
>> etc), but it is a property of THEM, not a property of ATHEISM.
>>
>> Get it?
>>
> 
> Yes, I get it - since as you say, atheism does not believe that no god 
> caused the universe, then what remains is atheists believe that one or 
> more god(s) caused the universe meaning atheists are really theists 
> rendering "atheism" moot.

No.  I'll try once again...and only one more time:

Atheism does not believe that god caused the universe.  Atheism does not 
believe that no god caused the universe.  Atheism does not even address 
the subject.  The only subject that atheism addresses is the "belief in 
deities" and the lack thereof.

If you want to discuss the origins of the universe, the origin of life, 
or how the current lifeforms came to be, then you're going to go outside 
the *V*E*R*Y* limited scope that "atheism" is.

Do you understand?


-- 
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*          DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226          *
*--------------------------------------------------*
* "When I was a kid I used to pray every night for *
*  a new bicycle. Then I realised that the Lord    *
* doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked   *
* Him to forgive me."                --Emo Philips *
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