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> Smiler wrote:
>> "DanielSan" <danielsan1977@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> SongBookz wrote:
>>>> "DanielSan" <danielsan1977@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>> SongBookz wrote:
>>>>>> "Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarnason@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>> On Tue, 13 May 2008 20:04:15 -0500, SongBookz wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarnason@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 12 May 2008 22:32:57 -0500, SongBookz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarnason@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>>>>> [snips]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 10 May 2008 00:32:43 -0500, SongBookz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Atheism qualifies as religion under word's, "religion,"
>>>>>>>>>>>> definition:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> - A set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose
of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> universe
>>>>>>>>>>> Whoops, sorry, you dropped the ball there. The one key aspect
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> atheism is that it is precisely about *not* having a belief.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Nice try, though.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "A-theism" is not equal to "a-religion."
>>>>>>>>> No, it's equal to "a theism", the lack of belief in deities.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Which is *exactly* as I said. It is precisely about *not*
having
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> belief, in contradiction to your assertion that, I quote, "A set
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> **beliefs**..." [emphasis added]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "A-theism" refers only to "without theism (or deity," a
synonym)..
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> does not refer to religion.
>>>>>>> Let us try this again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Theism means the presence of a belief.
>>>>>>> Atheism means the absence of that belief.
>>>>>> Incorrect - "Theism" is from the Greek, "Theos" meaning "god."
>>>>> And the "-ism" ****tion is defined as:
>>>>> a belief (or system of beliefs) accepted as authoritative by some
>>>>> group
>>>>>
>>>> "Ism is "a distinctive doctrine, theory, system, or practice"
>>>>
>>>> "Doctrine" is a synonym of "teaching." It is a doctrine (or
teaching)
>>>> of
>>>> atheism that there is/are no god(s).
>>> Therefore, everything that is talked about is an -ism. Context,
people.
>>> Context.
>>>
>>>>>> "A-theism" equals "a-theos," or "without god."
>>>>> Actually, "a-theos-ism" or "without god belief"
>>>>>
>>>> No ... "a-theos-ism" or "doctrine of no god."
>>>>
>>>> Dictionary.com: 1. the doctrine or belief that there is no God.
>>>> American Heritage Dictionary: 2. The doctrine that there is no God
>>>> or
>>>> gods.
>>>> WorldNET: 1. the doctrine or belief that there is no God]
>>> Why did you neglect the definitions that said "disbelief in gods"?
>>>
>>>>>> It says nothing about religion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A god is not a requirement for religion - religion is simply a set
of
>>>>>> beliefs concerning "the cause, nature, and purpose of the
universe."
>>>>> Also incorrect.
>>>>>
>>>>> Religion is defined as "a set of beliefs concerning the cause,
nature,
>>>>> and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of
a
>>>>> superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and
ritual
>>>>> observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct
>>>>> of
>>>>> human affairs."
>>>>>
>>>> "esp." is "especially" not "exclusively;" "usually" and "often," not
>>>> "always."
>>> And atheism is not about the cause, nature, or purpose of the
universe.
>>> Therefore, not a religion.
>>>
>>>>>> Whether you believe the universe was created by a god or several
gods
>>>>>> or whether you believe it was resulted from a Big Bang - you have
the
>>>>>> basic requirements of a religion. Which is one reason the court
was
>>>>>> correcting in classifying atheism as a religion.
>>>>> And you have just destroyed any definition of religious belief.
>>>>> Atheism
>>>> As to the definition of "religion," it is unharmed. That everyone
has
>>>> a
>>>> heart does not destroy the word, "heart," lung, "lungs," or eyes,
>>>> "eyes," and neither everyone having a religion destroy the word,
>>>> "religion."
>>>>
>>>>> has no deity, no doctrine of beliefs, no sets of practices.
>>>>>
>>>> Atheism is founded on the doctrine "there are/is no gods." Some
other
>>>> doctrines commonly, but not necessarily universally, espoused by
those
>>>> who identify themselves as atheists are "evolution," Big Bang,
natural
>>>> selection.
>>> But those are not properties of atheism.
>>>
>>>> Dictionary.com: 1. the doctrine or belief that there is no God.
>>> 2. disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.
>>>
>>>
>>>> American Heritage Dictionary: 2. The doctrine that there is no God
>>>> or
>>>> gods.
>>> 1. Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods.
>>>
>>>> WorldNET: 1. the doctrine or belief that there is no God
>>> 2. a lack of belief in the existence of God or gods
>>>
>>>>> It is merely a lack of belief in deities.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just like tall people are not a religion.
>>>>>
>>>> Logical fallacy, just because all tall people have a religion does
not
>>>> make tallness a religion unless tallness is "a set of beliefs
>>>> concerning
>>>> the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe."
>>> And atheism is not a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and
>>> purpose of the universe. Just like tallness.
>>>
>>
>> And *all* tall people do not have a religion.
>> I'm sure there are some tall atheists.
>
> Baby steps, Smiler. Don't want to give him too much too fast; his brain
> might explode.
>
Slowly, slowly catchee monkey.....
Smiler,
The godless one
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