"DanielSan" <danielsan1977@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> SongBookz wrote:
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>> "DanielSan" <danielsan1977@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> SongBookz wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarnason@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>> On Tue, 13 May 2008 20:04:15 -0500, SongBookz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarnason@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>> On Mon, 12 May 2008 22:32:57 -0500, SongBookz wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarnason@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>>> [snips]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 10 May 2008 00:32:43 -0500, SongBookz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Atheism qualifies as religion under word's, "religion,"
>>>>>>>>>> definition:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - A set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> universe
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Whoops, sorry, you dropped the ball there. The one key aspect
of
>>>>>>>>> atheism is that it is precisely about *not* having a belief.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nice try, though.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "A-theism" is not equal to "a-religion."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, it's equal to "a theism", the lack of belief in deities.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Which is *exactly* as I said. It is precisely about *not* having
a
>>>>>>> belief, in contradiction to your assertion that, I quote, "A set
of
>>>>>>> **beliefs**..." [emphasis added]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> "A-theism" refers only to "without theism (or deity," a synonym)..
it
>>>>>> does not refer to religion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let us try this again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Theism means the presence of a belief.
>>>>> Atheism means the absence of that belief.
>>>>
>>>> Incorrect - "Theism" is from the Greek, "Theos" meaning "god."
>>>
>>> And the "-ism" ****tion is defined as:
>>> a belief (or system of beliefs) accepted as authoritative by some
group
>>>
>>
>> "Ism is "a distinctive doctrine, theory, system, or practice"
>>
>> "Doctrine" is a synonym of "teaching." It is a doctrine (or teaching)
of
>> atheism that there is/are no god(s).
>
> Therefore, everything that is talked about is an -ism. Context, people.
> Context.
>
>>>>
>>>> "A-theism" equals "a-theos," or "without god."
>>>
>>> Actually, "a-theos-ism" or "without god belief"
>>>
>>
>> No ... "a-theos-ism" or "doctrine of no god."
>>
>> Dictionary.com: 1. the doctrine or belief that there is no God.
>> American Heritage Dictionary: 2. The doctrine that there is no God
or
>> gods.
>> WorldNET: 1. the doctrine or belief that there is no God]
>
> Why did you neglect the definitions that said "disbelief in gods"?
>
>>
>>>>
>>>> It says nothing about religion.
>>>>
>>>> A god is not a requirement for religion - religion is simply a set of
>>>> beliefs concerning "the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe."
>>>
>>> Also incorrect.
>>>
>>> Religion is defined as "a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature,
>>> and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a
>>> superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual
>>> observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct
of
>>> human affairs."
>>>
>>
>> "esp." is "especially" not "exclusively;" "usually" and "often," not
>> "always."
>
> And atheism is not about the cause, nature, or purpose of the universe.
> Therefore, not a religion.
>
>>
>>>>
>>>> Whether you believe the universe was created by a god or several gods
>>>> or whether you believe it was resulted from a Big Bang - you have the
>>>> basic requirements of a religion. Which is one reason the court was
>>>> correcting in classifying atheism as a religion.
>>>
>>> And you have just destroyed any definition of religious belief.
Atheism
>>
>> As to the definition of "religion," it is unharmed. That everyone has
a
>> heart does not destroy the word, "heart," lung, "lungs," or eyes,
>> "eyes," and neither everyone having a religion destroy the word,
>> "religion."
>>
>>> has no deity, no doctrine of beliefs, no sets of practices.
>>>
>>
>> Atheism is founded on the doctrine "there are/is no gods." Some other
>> doctrines commonly, but not necessarily universally, espoused by those
>> who identify themselves as atheists are "evolution," Big Bang, natural
>> selection.
>
> But those are not properties of atheism.
>
>>
>> Dictionary.com: 1. the doctrine or belief that there is no God.
>
> 2. disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.
>
>
>> American Heritage Dictionary: 2. The doctrine that there is no God
or
>> gods.
>
> 1. Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods.
>
>> WorldNET: 1. the doctrine or belief that there is no God
>
> 2. a lack of belief in the existence of God or gods
>
>>
>>> It is merely a lack of belief in deities.
>>>
>>> Just like tall people are not a religion.
>>>
>>
>> Logical fallacy, just because all tall people have a religion does not
>> make tallness a religion unless tallness is "a set of beliefs
concerning
>> the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe."
>
> And atheism is not a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and
> purpose of the universe. Just like tallness.
>
And *all* tall people do not have a religion.
I'm sure there are some tall atheists.
Smiler,
The godless one
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