"DanielSan" <danielsan1977@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:pJudnbZDotqpF7bVnZ2dnUVZ_q_inZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> SongBookz wrote:
>>
>> "Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarnason@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> news:5nhrf5-vjp.ln1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> On Tue, 13 May 2008 20:04:15 -0500, SongBookz wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarnason@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>> news:jmapf5-vjp.ln1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> On Mon, 12 May 2008 22:32:57 -0500, SongBookz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarnason@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:mbdlf5-u05.ln1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> [snips]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 10 May 2008 00:32:43 -0500, SongBookz wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Atheism qualifies as religion under word's, "religion,"
definition:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - A set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of
the
>>>>>>>> universe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whoops, sorry, you dropped the ball there. The one key aspect of
>>>>>>> atheism is that it is precisely about *not* having a belief.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nice try, though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> "A-theism" is not equal to "a-religion."
>>>>>
>>>>> No, it's equal to "a theism", the lack of belief in deities.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which is *exactly* as I said. It is precisely about *not* having a
>>>>> belief, in contradiction to your assertion that, I quote, "A set of
>>>>> **beliefs**..." [emphasis added]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> "A-theism" refers only to "without theism (or deity," a synonym).. it
>>>> does not refer to religion.
>>>
>>> Let us try this again.
>>>
>>> Theism means the presence of a belief.
>>> Atheism means the absence of that belief.
>>
>> Incorrect - "Theism" is from the Greek, "Theos" meaning "god."
>
> And the "-ism" ****tion is defined as:
> a belief (or system of beliefs) accepted as authoritative by some group
>
"Ism is "a distinctive doctrine, theory, system, or practice"
"Doctrine" is a synonym of "teaching." It is a doctrine (or teaching) of
atheism that there is/are no god(s).
>>
>> "A-theism" equals "a-theos," or "without god."
>
> Actually, "a-theos-ism" or "without god belief"
>
No ... "a-theos-ism" or "doctrine of no god."
Dictionary.com: 1. the doctrine or belief that there is no God.
American Heritage Dictionary: 2. The doctrine that there is no God or
gods.
WorldNET: 1. the doctrine or belief that there is no God
>>
>> It says nothing about religion.
>>
>> A god is not a requirement for religion - religion is simply a set of
>> beliefs concerning "the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe."
>
> Also incorrect.
>
> Religion is defined as "a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature,
and
> purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a
> superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual
> observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of
> human affairs."
>
"esp." is "especially" not "exclusively;" "usually" and "often," not
"always."
>>
>> Whether you believe the universe was created by a god or several gods
or
>> whether you believe it was resulted from a Big Bang - you have the
basic
>> requirements of a religion. Which is one reason the court was
correcting
>> in classifying atheism as a religion.
>
> And you have just destroyed any definition of religious belief. Atheism
As to the definition of "religion," it is unharmed. That everyone has a
heart does not destroy the word, "heart," lung, "lungs," or eyes, "eyes,"
and neither everyone having a religion destroy the word, "religion."
> has no deity, no doctrine of beliefs, no sets of practices.
>
Atheism is founded on the doctrine "there are/is no gods." Some other
doctrines commonly, but not necessarily universally, espoused by those who
identify themselves as atheists are "evolution," Big Bang, natural
selection.
Dictionary.com: 1. the doctrine or belief that there is no God.
American Heritage Dictionary: 2. The doctrine that there is no God or
gods.
WorldNET: 1. the doctrine or belief that there is no God
> It is merely a lack of belief in deities.
>
> Just like tall people are not a religion.
>
Logical fallacy, just because all tall people have a religion does not
make
tallness a religion unless tallness is "a set of beliefs concerning the
cause, nature, and purpose of the universe."
Terrell
|
