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Re: Armageddon transformed into a grim fairy tale

by "Precision" <precision@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 14, 2008 at 01:27 AM

"Sockie The Apostate" <Apostate@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Precision" <precision@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>  SNIP same propaganda told to all JWs at the time.
>
> READ this and weep you lying hypocrite. The GB and everyone below them 
> KNEW what was going on and took no steps to stop the insanity. In fact 
> they encouraged it. Not one word telling the elders to STOP what was
going 
> on:


Lying hypocrite? Those are fighting words, Sockie, to call someone you
don't 
even know.

And just how do you know they didn't privately counsel the elders, down 
through the chain of command to their Circuit Overseer? Didn't even
consider 
this possibility?


> Of all the pre 1975 quotes this is probably the most popular, notice
> what is encouraged in the Kingdom Ministry a year prior to 1975 (monthly
> internal JW newsletter)
> Re****ts are heard of brothers selling their homes and property and
> planning to finish out the rest of their days in this old system in the
> pioneer service. Certainly this is a fine way to spend the short time
> remaining before the wicked world's end.-1 John 2:17
> Kingdom Ministry May 1974 pg.3


Yes, I looked up the quote in the Society's library and it is correct, 
although I would like to quote the surrounding context. Viewing this quote

in a vacuum I can certainly emphathize with the underlying reasons of why 
you and others are on the proverbial warpath.

The entire section of the Kingdom Ministry text starting with subheading
and 
paragraphs to next heading reveals a sincere but perhaps overly zealous 
treatment of the then fast approaching year 1975 and its chronological 
context.

Quoting from the heading 'How Are You Using Your Life' and text under 
subheading 'God's Will for Us' in the May 1974 issue of the Kingdom
Ministry 
on pages 3-4:

"God's Will for Us

Jehovah makes clear in his Word that his will for us today includes 
accompli****ng a great work of Kingdom-preaching before the end of this 
system comes. (Matt. 24:14) Jesus Christ did a similar work. He said:
"Also 
to other cities I must declare the good news of the kingdom of God,
because 
for this I was sent forth."-Luke 4:43.

Jesus did not hold back, but was whole-souled in his service to God. When
we 
read the historical accounts of his ministry in the Gospels, how impressed

we are with his energy and zeal in doing the Kingdom-preaching! Jesus knew

that he had only a short time, and he did not spare himself in fini****ng
his 
assignment. Should we not today be imitating his example, especially since

we have such a short time left now in which to complete the 
Kingdom-preaching?

Yes, the end of this system is so very near! Is that not reason to
increase 
our activity? In this regard we can learn something from a runner who puts

on a final burst of speed near the finish of a race. Look at Jesus, who 
apparently stepped up his activity during his final days on earth. In
fact, 
over 27 percent of the material in the Gospels is devoted to just the last

week of Jesus' earthly ministry!-Matt. 21:1-27:50; Mark 11:1-15:37; Luke 
19:29-23:46; John 11:55-19:30.

By carefully and prayerfully examining our own cir***stances, we also may 
find that we can spend more time and energy in preaching during this final

period before the present system ends. Many of our brothers and sisters
are 
doing just that. This is evident from the rapidly increasing number of 
pioneers.

Yes, since the summer of 1973 there have been new peaks in pioneers every 
month. Now there are 20,394 regular and special pioneers in the United 
States, an all-time peak. That is 5,190 more than there were in February 
1973! A 34-percent increase! Does that not warm our hearts? Re****ts are 
heard of brothers selling their homes and property and planning to finish 
out the rest of their days in this old system in the pioneer service. 
Certainly this is a fine way to spend the short time remaining before the 
wicked world's end.-1 John 2:17.

Cir***stances such as poor health or responsibilities in connection with 
your family may limit what you can do in the field ministry. And yet, the 
pioneer ranks include many who have health limitations, as well as some 
persons with families. But these brothers and sisters are able to regulate

their lives so that they can care for their responsibilities and still put

in the 1,200 hours a year, an average of 100 hours a month in the field 
ministry, required of pioneers.

Therefore, do not be too quick to dismiss the possibility that you, too,
may 
be able to pioneer. Give it careful and prayerful consideration. Perhaps
an 
analysis will reveal that your life is en***bered with needless weights
that 
can be put off so that you can pioneer. Particularly may this be the case
if 
you are single, or are married but have no children.-Heb. 12:1.

So, then, ask yourself: How am I using my life? Can I make adjustments
that 
will enable me to pioneer? If I can, will failure to do so indicate to 
Jehovah that I am living to satisfy personal desires, rather than to do
His 
will? Every one of us wants to be able to say, as did the apostle Paul, 
"Indeed, the life that I now live in flesh I live by the faith that is 
toward the Son of God, who loved me and handed himself over for me. I do
not 
shove aside the undeserved kindness of God." Gal. 2:20, 21.

Real blessings await those who can adjust their affairs to pioneer. First,

there is a certain added contentment in sharing full time in the preaching

work that God purposes all his servants now to do. Pioneering enlarges
your 
op****tunity to "save" yet scattered prospective members of the "great 
 crowd." (1 Tim. 4:16; Rev. 7:9, 14) Also, there may open up to you the 
privilege of being sent as a special pioneer into territory that is not 
often worked. And for those pioneering, there is the possibility of the 
op****tunity of training at Gilead School and then going on to foreign 
missionary service.

So do not delay in giving serious consideration to this matter of how you 
are using your life. See if you can arrange your affairs to pioneer. Why
not 
discuss the matter with persons already pioneering or with elders in your 
congregation?

As you probably are aware, to qualify as a regular pioneer you should have

been baptized for at least six months, and have participated in the field 
service each month for the past six months. Also, it is vital that you
have 
a reputation for fine Christian conduct."

(End of Kingdom Ministry quote.)



> SNIP!
>
> Your propaganda snipped. I was also taught to lie about the failed 
> predictions of the GB which proved them false prophets, liars and 
> manipulators.


With all due respect, the idea they teach people to 'lie about (their) 
failed predictions' is on the bleeding edge of paranoid delusional 
absurdity.

This is not the Scientology cult. This is a group of sincere Christians
lead 
by imperfect humans whose sole motivation is love for God. Any scathing 
criticisms of those taking the lead should be motivated out of love, as I 
can attest is my case, and not propelled by an insatiable lifelong
obsession 
for 'payback' as it seems is your tragic lot in life.

If you read the above quote carefully you can see how CONTEXT is 
everything... and quipping 'sound bytes' yanked from the message is a 
departure from the high road.





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Armageddon transformed into a grim fairy tale
"Precision" <  2008-05-09 03:30:53 
Re: Armageddon transformed into a grim fairy tale
anonOmussremusser@[EMAIL   2008-05-09 11:00:17 
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"Norma & Revis&q  2008-05-13 11:00:26 
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"~saba*gracile~"  2008-05-11 12:55:10 
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"Mike Johannson"  2008-05-11 10:00:13 
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anonOmussremusser@[EMAIL   2008-05-11 11:06:41 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-13 10:16:21 
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"Norma & Revis&q  2008-05-14 17:11:32 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-13 10:26:19 
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"Mike Johannson"  2008-05-14 17:14:01 
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"Precision" <  2008-05-10 15:26:11 
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"Ips-Switch" &l  2008-05-10 20:33:03 
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curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-10 21:48:24 
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"~saba*gracile~"  2008-05-11 13:02:54 
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"Kathy C" <K  2008-05-11 10:08:59 
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"Kathy C" <K  2008-05-11 10:05:33 
Re: Armageddon transformed into a grim fairy tale
curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-11 20:49:15 
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"Kathy C" <K  2008-05-12 01:06:51 
Re: Armageddon transformed into a grim fairy tale
curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-12 07:59:45 
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anonOmussremusser@[EMAIL   2008-05-12 09:55:29 
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"Kathy C" <K  2008-05-12 13:47:00 
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=?iso-8859-1?B?fiBT5GJs6y  2008-05-12 13:41:51 
Re: Armageddon transformed into a grim fairy tale
"Sockie The Apostate  2008-05-12 13:43:54 
Re: Armageddon transformed into a grim fairy tale
curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-12 13:46:47 
Re: Armageddon transformed into a grim fairy tale
"Sockie The Apostate  2008-05-12 16:49:51 
Re: Armageddon transformed into a grim fairy tale
"Precision" <  2008-05-12 23:30:41 
Re: Armageddon transformed into a grim fairy tale
=?iso-8859-1?B?fiBT5GJs6y  2008-05-13 11:06:47 
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"Precision" <  2008-05-12 23:40:21 
Re: Armageddon transformed into a grim fairy tale
"Sockie The Apostate  2008-05-13 11:09:11 
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"Sockie The Apostate  2008-05-13 11:12:17 
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"Sockie The Apostate  2008-05-14 17:37:13 
Re: Armageddon transformed into a grim fairy tale
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"Sockie The Apostate  2008-05-14 17:29:38 
Re: Armageddon transformed into a grim fairy tale
curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-13 10:34:23 
Re: Armageddon transformed into a grim fairy tale
"Kathy C" <K  2008-05-14 17:34:17 
Re: Armageddon transformed into a grim fairy tale
curtjester1 <curtjeste  2008-05-13 10:39:24 
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"Sockie The Apostate  2008-05-14 17:24:13 
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"~saba*gracile~"  2008-05-15 18:31:34 
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=?iso-8859-1?B?fiBT5GJs6y  2008-05-14 17:44:54 
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