Re: ATHEISM - A Side-Effect of Religious Stupidity

curtjester1 wrote:
> On 10 May, 06:44, Rod <icom...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> curtjester1 wrote:
>>> On 9 May, 10:11, Rod <icom...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> Bibon wrote:
>>>>> TUPELO, Miss., -- A federal court of appeals has ruled in favor of
an
>>>>> inmate who claimed that Wisconsin prison officials violated his
rights
>>>>> under the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment because they
>>>>> refused to allow him to create a study group for atheists.
>>>>> The 7th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that prison officials erred
>>>>> because they “did not treat atheism as a ‘religion.’” The court
said,
>>>>> “Atheism is [the inmate’s] religion, and the group that he wanted to
>>>>> start was religious in nature even though it expressly rejects a
belief
>>>>> in a supreme being.”
>>>>> Brian Fahling, senior trial attorney for the American Family
Association
>>>>> Center for Law & Policy, described the court’s ruling as “a sort of
>>>>> Alice in Wonderland jurisprudence.”
>>>>> “Up is down, and atheism, the antithesis of religion, is religion,”
>>>>> stated Fahling.
>>>>> The Supreme Court has said that a religion need not be based on a
belief
>>>>> in the existence of a supreme being. In the 1961 case of Torcaso v.
>>>>> Watkins, the Court described “secular humanism” as a religion.
>>>>>                                 ************
>>>>> Yes, atheism is a religion and is recognized as such by Federal
Courts
>>>>> in the USA. More ammo for you to use against those who doubt your
FAITH!
>>>>    Atheism is not a religion..the fact that a judge and lawyers see
it
>>>> as such is just another indication of the mentality of sickness that
>>>> permeates society today. Atheism is a mode of existence, a means of
>>>> living ones life free of unjustified restraint.- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> What exactly are you freeing yourself of?  Is society or religion
>>> forcing you to have to have one of their belief system's?  "Unjustifed
>>> Restraint"?  What a hoot!
>>    Really ? Have you walked a mile in another mans shoes ? Have you
ever
>>    been refused a job because you wouldn't join a church or pray ? Have
>>    you ever received good reviews from an employer until a supervisor
>>    found out that you are not a follower of christ or believe in a god
?
>>
> Let me tell you about the real world.  Have you ever been on a job
> that won't promote because you refuse to adhere to liberal policies of
> ***ual lifestyles?  Have you lost the job because you are too straight
> because they have to have people on their payroll that will bend
> convictions for the company store and their less than moral business
> principles?  Anyway, those examples could be endless, but I think one
> would get my drift.
> 
>>    I have. As a matter of fact I filed, fought and WON just such a
>>    lawsuit 7 years ago against a christian trucking company that
>>    canceled a contract because I am not a christian. I beat
>>    the pants off of them in court and I'm not done with them yet.
>>
> There are many of companies to choose from that hate anything to do
> with Christianity.
> 
>>    And this only is scratching the surface of what has been happening
>>    to people all across this country. Personally, your bible forcasts
>>    that christians will be persecuted by non believers and evil men..
>>    my life experience tells me that at least a small ****tion of the
>>    christian population has brought these repercussions upon
themselves.
>>
> I could give several examples of execution by gov't heads because they
> wouldn't adhere to the practices of the State/Country.
> 
>>    Of course I'm guessing now, but I'm inclined to believe that you're
>>    going to respond with a patent denial of a case that has already
been
>> proven in a court, and as one preacher put it, "this was nothing more
>>    than a paint job done by an atheist on an innocent christian
>>    company and it's owners solely out of hatred."
>>
> Truth be known, I don't even care for lots of so-called Christian
> organizations or their hypocritical business adherences.  Of course I
> don't think atheists have anything to be proud of.
> 
>>    Well my christian friend, hatred has a cause, but feel free to prove
>>    me wrong at any time....
>>
> I could bring out some scriptures of false christianity and business
> and governtment from the Bible Book of Revelation and will if
> genuinely interested.
> 
>>
>>> The fact is, anything is and can be umbrelled under religion.
>>> Hedonism, government followers....  they are all basically
>>> 'lifestyles' that people side up on.   Atheism *IS* just another
>>> religion because they embrace and prosetelyze a system that they don't
>>> care for, a belief in a higher power.
>>    The very fact the you have convinced yourself to believe that
>>    your statement applies to any and all atheistic peoples simply
>>    goes to demonstrate your ignorance of human nature and progressive
>>    will of the human spirit.
>>
> As I said, atheism would point one in the direction of self-
> centeredness.  No one to answer to, and no guidelines to keep you
> under an umbrella.  See, I am not personally attacking.
> 
>>    I've done without the help of the imaginary figure for quite a spell
>>    now. As a matter of fact, I'm still in awe that he didn't put in
>>    an appearance in the courtroom to defend his "innocent christian
>>    cor****ation"....
>>
> Who knows he might have.  There is another example in Rev. about the
> state coming to the aid of Christians in their situation of
> persecution..which has happened.
> 
>>>  They have no way to actually
>>> prove it, but their religion is to downgrade, debunk, or demoralize
>>> people that do.
>>    Actually I'm about to make a liar of you in my case. My wife is a
>> christian. I don't beat her, degrade her, belittle her for her faith,
>> I don't rape her daily or tell her to fetch my news paper, and I don't
>> make her take out the trash. I love her. Thats right christian,
atheists
>> feel love just as you do. I've even helped the members of her church
set
>> up and get going a greenhouse, and I did it all without taking a single
>> christian life !
>>
> Hey, when one wants some nookie, one will do all sorts of
> things...it's not that compelling.

   hey dude, that isn't even a kosher comment. I believe you know full
   well what was meant. Love has more to offer than ***...


> 
>>    Thats amazing, isn't it ?? I knew you'd see it that way !
>>
>>    Rod
>>
> Yup.  You have a little hope.
> 
> CJ