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by Carl <saints@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 10, 2008 at 08:29 PM

On May 10, 10:34=C2=A0pm, "OB...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
" <OB...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On May 10, 2:00=EF=BF=BDpm, Gabriel <gabriel_bapt...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> because, perhaps, just as God's Word tells us,> that no one will know
but =
God?
>
> ____
> =C2=A0 We interpret the Bible using the Bible and common sense . Just
thin=
k
> if God wanted us not to know the time would he give us the signs that
> we find in the Bible ?
> If a robber wanted to steal from =C2=A0your home would he give you signs
> that precede his coming ?
>

And your rather simplistic theory of hermeneutics is just as flawed as
your attempts at Biblical justification of divination.

May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/

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Rightly Interpreting The Bible
by Ron Rhodes

Methodology

The word "method" comes from the Greek word methodos, which literally
means "a way or path of transit."

Methodology in Bible study is therefore concerned with "the proper
path to be taken in order to arrive at Scriptural truth."

This clearly implies that improper paths can be taken.

Of course, proper methodology is essential to many fields of endeavor.
A heart surgeon does not perform open heart surgery without following
proper, objective methodology. (Would you trust a heart surgeon to
operate on you who told you that he intended to discard objective
methodology, instead opting for a subjective approach - cutting you
where he feels like cutting you?)

Improper methodology in interpreting Scripture is nothing new.

Even in New Testament times, the apostle Peter warned that there are
teachings in the inspired writings of Paul "which they that are
unlearned and unstable wrest [distort], as they do also the other
scriptures, unto their own destruction" (2 Peter 3:16, insert added).

This verse tells us that mishandling the Word of God can be very
dangerous. Indeed, mishandling the Word of God is a "path" to
destruction.

Contrary to the practices of some false teachers in Corinth, the
apostle Paul assured his readers that he faithfully handled the Word
of God (2 Corinthians 4:2). Paul admonished young Timothy to follow
his example: "Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that
needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth" (2
Timothy 2:15, italics added).

A Foundational Truth: God Created Language for a Purpose

A plain reading of Genesis indicates that when God created Adam in His
own rational image, He gave Adam the gift of intelligible speech, thus
enabling him to communicate objectively with his creator (and with
other human beings) via sharable linguistic symbols called words
(Genesis 1:26).

God sovereignly chose to use human language as a medium of
revelational communication.

If the primary purpose of God's originating of language was to make it
possible for Him to communicate with human beings, as well as to
enable human beings to communicate with each another, then it must
follow that He would generally use language and expect man to use it
in its literal, normal, and plain sense.

This view of language is a prerequisite to understanding not only
God's spoken word but His written Word (Scripture) as well.

The Bible as a body of literature exists because human beings need to
know certain spiritual truths to which they cannot attain by
themselves.

Thus these truths must come to them from without - that is, via
objective, special revelation from God (Deuteronomy 29:29).

And this revelation can only be understood if one interprets the words
of Scripture according to God's original design for language - that
is, according to the ordinary, plain, literal sense of each word.

Seeking the Author's Intended Meaning

Instead of superimposing a meaning on the biblical text, the objective
interpreter seeks to discover the author's intended meaning (the only
true meaning).

One must recognize that what a passage means is fixed by the author
and is not subject to alteration by readers.

Meaning is determined by the author; it is discovered by readers.

Our goal must be exegesis (drawing the meaning out of the text) and
not eisogesis (superimposing a meaning onto the text).

By using eisogesis instead of exegesis, a Marxist interpreter could,
for example, so skew the meaning of the U.S. Constitution that it came
out reading like a socialistic document.

Cultists have done the same type of thing with Holy Scripture.

They so skew the meaning of the biblical text that it comes out saying
something entirely different than what was intended by the author.

Only by objective methodology can we bridge the gap between our minds
and the minds of the biblical writers.

Indeed, our method of interpreting Scripture is valid or invalid to
the extent that it really unfolds the meaning a statement had for the
author and the first hearers or readers.

The Im****tance of Context

A woman entered the Democratic primary for governor of the state of
Texas. She was convinced that the Bible had told her she would win the
nomination. When she received the official list of names from the
primary she saw her name printed last. Then she read in her Bible,
"Many that are first will be last, and the last first" (Matthew
19:30). On the basis of that verse she thought God was telling her she
would win. But she lost. This amusing story illustrates the need for
interpreting Scripture in its proper context. Taken out of context,
the Scriptures can be twisted to say just about anything.

Seeking the biblical author's intended meaning necessitates
interpreting Bible verses in context.

Every word in the Bible is part of a verse, and every verse is part of
a paragraph, and every paragraph is part of a book, and every book is
part of the whole of Scripture.

No verse of Scripture can be divorced from the verses around it.
Interpreting a verse apart from its context is like trying to analyze
a Rembrandt painting by looking at only a single square inch of the
painting, or like trying to analyze Handel's "Messiah" by listening to
a few short notes.

The context is absolutely critical to properly interpreting Bible
verses.

In interpreting Scripture, there is both an immediate context and a
broader context.

The immediate context of a verse is the paragraph (or paragraphs) of
the biblical book in question. The immediate context should always be
consulted in interpreting Bible verses.

The broader context is the whole of Scripture.

The entire Holy Scripture is the context and guide for understanding
the particular passages of Scripture.

We must keep in mind that the interpretation of a specific passage
must not contradict the total teaching of Scripture on a point.

Individual verses do not exist as isolated fragments, but as parts of
a whole.

The exposition of these verses, therefore, must involve exhibiting
them in right relation both to the whole and to each other. Scripture
interprets Scripture.

As J. I. Packer puts it, "if we would understand the parts, our wisest
course is to get to know the whole."

The Im****tance of Historical Considerations

Historical considerations are especially im****tant in properly
interpreting the Word of God.

The Christian faith is based on historical fact.

Indeed, Christianity rests on the foundation of the historical Jesus
whose earthly life represents God's full and objective self-
communication to humankind (John 1:18).

Jesus was seen and heard by human beings as God's ultimate revelation
(1 John 1:1-3).

This is why He could forcefully claim, "If ye had known me, ye should
have known my Father also" (John 14:7).

The apostle Paul, when speaking with the religious men of Athens,
affirmed that the reality of the future judgment of all humanity rests
on the objective, historical evidence for the resurrection of Jesus
(Acts 17:16f.).

This evidence is recorded for us in the New Testament Gospels,
documents that are based on eyewitness testimony and written very
close in time to the events on which they re****t.

Based on how people respond to God's objective, historical revelation
contained in Scripture, they will spend eternity in a real heaven or a
real hell.

Making a Correct Genre Judgment

A "literal" approach to Scripture recognizes that the Bible contains a
variety of literary genres, each of which has certain peculiar
characteristics that must be recognized in order to interpret the text
properly.

Biblical genres include the historical (e.g., Acts), the dramatic epic
(e.g., Job), poetry (e.g., Psalms), wise sayings (e.g., Proverbs), and
apocalyptic writings (e.g., Revelation).

Obviously, an incorrect genre judgment will lead one far astray in
interpreting Scripture.

A parable should not be treated as history, nor should poetry or
apocalyptic literature (both of which contain many symbols) be treated
as straightforward narrative.

The wise interpreter allows his knowledge of genres to control how he
approaches each individual biblical text.

In this way, he can accurately determine what the biblical author was
intending to communicate to the reader.

Now, even though the Bible contains a variety of literary genres and
many figures of speech, the biblical authors most often employed
literal statements to convey their ideas.

Where they use a literal means to express their ideas, the Bible
expositor must employ a corresponding means to explain these ideas -
namely, a literal approach.

A literal method of interpreting Scripture gives to each word in the
text the same basic meaning it would have in normal, ordinary,
customary usage - whether employed in writing, speaking, or thinking.

Without such a method, communication between God and man is
impossible.

Interpret the Old Testament in Light of the New Testament

God gave revelation to humankind progressively throughout Old and New
Testament times.

He didn't just give His entire revelation for all time to our first
parents, Adam and Eve, or to Moses, the Lawgiver.

Rather, as time went on - as the centuries slowly passed - God
provided more and more revelation that became progressively full so
that by the time the New Testament was complete, God had told us
everything He wanted us to know.

In view of this, a key interpretive principle is that one should
always interpret the Old Testament in view of the greater light of the
New Testament.

The Old Testament may be likened to a chamber richly furnished but
dimly lighted.

The introduction of light brings into it nothing which was not in it
before; but it brings out into clearer view much of what is in it but
was only dimly or even not at all perceived before.

The Old Testament revelation of God is not corrected by the fuller
revelation which follows it, but only perfected, extended, and
enlarged.

Again, then, the Old Testament should be interpreted according to the
greater light of the New Testament. The Old Testament is much clearer
when approached through the lens of the New Testament.

Dependence on the Holy Spirit

Scripture tells us that we are to rely on the Holy Spirit's
illumination to gain insights into the meaning and application of
Scripture (John 16:12-15; 1 Corinthians 2:9-11).

It is the Holy Spirit's work to throw light upon the Word of God so
that the believer can assent to the meaning intended and act on it.

The Holy Spirit, as the "Spirit of truth" (John 16:13), guides us so
that "we may understand what God has freely given us" (1 Corinthians
2:12).

This is quite logical: full comprehension of the Word of God is
impossible without prayerful dependence on the Spirit of God, for He
who inspired the Word (2 Peter 1:21) is also its supreme interpreter.

Illumination is necessary because man's mind has been darkened through
sin (Romans 1:21), preventing him from properly understanding God's
Word.

Human beings cannot understand God's Word apart from God's divine
enablement (Ephesians 4:18).

This aspect of the Holy Spirit's ministry operates within the sphere
of man's rational capacity, which God Himself gave man (cf. Genesis
2-3).

Illumination comes to the 'minds' of God's people - not to some
nonrational faculty like our 'emotions' or our 'feelings' [like a
'burning in the bosom'].

To know God's revelation means to use our minds.
This makes knowledge something we can share with others, something we
can talk about.

God's Word is in words with ordinary rational content.
The ministry of the Holy Spirit in interpretation does not mean
interpreters can ignore common sense and logic.

Since the Holy Spirit is "the Spirit of truth" (John 14:17; 15:26;
16:13), He does not teach concepts that fail to meet the tests of
truth.

In other words, "the Holy Spirit does not guide into interpretations
that contradict each other or fail to have logical, internal
consistency."

It must also be kept in mind that the function of the Holy Spirit is
not to communicate to the minds of people any doctrine or meaning of
Scripture that is not contained already in Scripture itself.

The Holy Spirit makes men "wise up to what is written, not beyond it."

Indeed, "the function of the Spirit is not to communicate new truth or
to instruct in matters unknown, but to illuminate what is revealed in
Scripture."

The Example of Jesus Christ




Jesus consistently interpreted the Old Testament quite literally,
including the Creation account of Adam and Eve (Matthew 13:35; 25:34;
Mark 10:6), Noah's Ark and the flood (Matthew 24:38-39; Luke
17:26-27), Jonah and the great fish (Matthew 12:39-41), Sodom and
Gomorrah (Matthew 10:15), and the account of Lot and his wife (Luke
17:28-29).

In his book The Savior and the Scriptures, theologian Robert P.
Lightner notes - following an exhaustive study - that Jesus'
interpretation of Scripture "was always in accord with the grammatical
and historical meaning. He understood and appreciated the meaning
intended by the writers according to the laws of grammar and
rhetoric."

Jesus affirmed the Bible's

divine inspiration (Matthew 22:43),

its indestructibility (Matthew 5:17-18),

its infallibility (John 10:35),

its final authority (Matthew 4:4,7,10),

its historicity (Matthew 12:40; 24:37),

its factual inerrancy (Matthew 22:29-32), and

its spiritual clarity (Luke 24:25).

Moreover, He emphasized the im****tance of each word of Scripture (Luke
16:17). Indeed, He sometimes based His argumentation on a single
expression of the biblical text (Matthew 22:32,43-45; John 10:34).

Is the Bible Alone Sufficient?

That the average person can understand Scripture without having to
rely upon a church for the "authoritative teaching" is evident in the
fact that Jesus taught openly and with clarity, and expected His
followers to each understand His meaning. Recall that following His
arrest, Jesus was questioned by the High Priest about His disciples
and His teaching. Jesus responded:

I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in
the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said
nothing. Why askest thou me? ask them which heard me, what I have said
unto them: behold, they know what I said (John 18:20-21, emphases
added).

According to Jesus, those who heard Him would be able to clearly
enunciate what He had openly communicated.

There were no confusing or obscure meanings in His words that required
an "authoritative interpretation" by a church.

In keeping with this, the apostle Paul instructed young Timothy: "From
a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make
thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus" (2
Timothy 3:15).

This verse points to the complete sufficiency of Scripture in the life
of a believer.

Jewish boys formally began studying the Old Testament Scriptures when
they were five years of age.

Timothy had been taught the Scriptures by his mother and grandmother
beginning at this age.

Clearly, 2 Timothy 3:15 indicates that the Scriptures alone are
sufficient to provide the necessary wisdom that leads to salvation
through faith in Christ.

The Scriptures alone are the source of spiritual knowledge.

Then, 2 Timothy 3:16-17 tells us that all Scripture is "profitable for
doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in
righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly
furnished unto all good works."

This verse does not say that Scripture as seen through the lens of the
Mormon church is "profitable for doctrine, for reproof," and so forth.

It is Scripture that does these things. And the reason Scripture can
do these things is that all Scripture is inspired by God (vs. 16a).

The word inspired means "God-breathed." Scripture is sufficient
because it finds its source in God.

It is noteworthy that the phrase thoroughly furnished ("that the man
of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished") means "complete,
capable, fully furnished, proficient in the sense of being able to
meet all demands."

Scripture alone makes a person complete, capable, and proficient.

Scripture furnishes all that one must know to be saved and to grow in
grace.
Correctly Handling the Word of Truth

Jesus said His words lead to eternal life (John 6:63). But for us to
receive eternal life through His words, they must be taken as He
intended them to be taken.

A cultic reinterpretation of Scripture that yields another Jesus and
another gospel (2 Corinthians 11:3-4; Galatians 1:6-9) will yield only
eternal death (Revelation 20:11-15).
 




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@@ THE END TIMES CUT SHORT IN OUR TIMES ! @@
"OBVES@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-10 12:50:15 
Re: @@ THE END TIMES CUT SHORT IN OUR TIMES ! @@
Carl <saints@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-10 13:55:16 
Re: @@ THE END TIMES CUT SHORT IN OUR TIMES ! @@
Gabriel <gabriel_bapti  2008-05-10 17:00:02 
Re: @@ THE END TIMES CUT SHORT IN OUR TIMES ! @@
"OBVES@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-10 19:34:10 
Re: @@ THE END TIMES CUT SHORT IN OUR TIMES ! @@
Gabriel <gabriel_bapti  2008-05-11 14:42:46 
Re: @@ THE END TIMES CUT SHORT IN OUR TIMES ! @@
Carl <saints@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-10 20:29:26 
Re: @@ THE END TIMES CUT SHORT IN OUR TIMES ! @@
"~saba*gracile~"  2008-05-11 13:23:04 
Re: @@ THE END TIMES CUT SHORT IN OUR TIMES ! @@
"~saba*gracile~"  2008-05-11 13:26:59 
Re: @@ THE END TIMES CUT SHORT IN OUR TIMES ! @@
Carl <saints@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-10 20:31:32 
Re: @@ THE END TIMES CUT SHORT IN OUR TIMES ! @@
"crashbee" <  2008-05-10 23:33:41 

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