Talk About Network



Register and Login
Nick
Password
Register create new account Sign up is FREE and you can post replies, new topics, bookmark posts and more!
Recover lost password


Religion > Jehovahs Witness > For JWs and arc...
Latest [ Topics | Posts ] Archive Post A New Topic Post a Reply
<< Topic < Post Post 1 of 1 Topic 17821 of 17880
Post > Topic >>

For JWs and archaeologists: astro-corrected timeline brochure

by "Lars Wilson" <siaxares@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 7, 2008 at 08:15 PM

ASTRO-CORRECTED BIBLICAL TIMEINE FOR ARCHAEOLOGISTS AND JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

Much confusion exists for archaeologists for dating Biblical events
because 
a revised Greek timeline is used for dating. Astronomical events were also

revised but when corrected completely agree with the strict Biblical 
timeline. The following provides the astronomical adjustments for
correcting 
both the secular and Biblical timelines. When corrected, we discover the 
archaeological timeline in better agreement. JW timeline issues also 
compared and discussed.

531 BCE Solar Eclipse dating the first year of the Peloponnesian War is 
redated to early 402 BCE, which dates the beginning of the war to 403BCE. 
The 10th year of the war ends a 30-year peace agreement dated to Xerxes' 
invasion, redating the Battle of Salamis and his invasion to 424BCE. Ten 
years earlier in 434BCE is the Battle of Marathon and the death of Darius
I 
(per Herodotus). Ezra 6:14,15 dates the death of Darius in his sixth year,

followed by "Artaxerxes" who would attack Greece sometime later in his
reign 
(Dan 11:2); this confirms that Artaxerxes I and Xerxes were actually the 
same king per the Bible, now confirmed by archaeological evidence at 
Persepolis. The temple at Jerusalem was completed the last month of this 
same year (433BCE), which was begun 22 years earlier in the 1st year of 
Cyrus now dated to 455BCE and becoming a critical dating checkpoint for
all 
Biblical events both historical and prophetic. Greek notes: Socrates was
32 
when the war began would die at age 69 in 366 BCE, when his male 
lover-protégé "Phaedo" is 18. Aristotle born in 384BCE would be 18 in 
366BCE, thus the identity of Phaedo and Aristotle are combined. Plato was 
born in 428BCE making Socrates only 7 years older, which matches the
history 
that Socrates knew Plato in his youth and was a companion to Plato's older

brothers. Before the correction Socrates and Plato's brothers are over 40 
years older than Plato. "The Delian Problem" was a mathematical challenge 
created to stop the plague that broke out during the first year of the PPW

for which Plato was consulted. Before the correction the war in 431BCE 
occurs 3 years before Plato is born; after the correction Plato is 25
years 
of age.

--- 

Predicted Thales Eclipse - Per Herodotus Thales predicted an eclipse
during 
the reign of Nabonidus. Cyrus conquered Persia 20 years before his rule in

Babylon began in 455BCE. This dates the 6th year of Nabonidus to 475BCE
and 
the 2-year sole rule of Nabonidus in 480-478BCE. An eclipse search during 
those two years for Ionia confirms the rare predictable eclipse of Thales 
occurring in early 478BCE based upon a previous eclipse in the same 
geo-centro-sequential predictable eclipse pattern occurring in 532BCE in 
Egypt where Thales studied astronomy for 7 years. The 585BCE eclipse is
not 
predictable nor does it occur during the reign of Nabonidus.

--- 

VAT4956 - This is a key text for dating the 37th year of Nebuchadnezzar
II. 
It has over 70 astronomical references matching 568BCE but two "errors" in

the text both belong to 511BCE, confirming the original dating and the 
revision to 568BCE. Using this reference, the 23rd year of Nebuchadnezzar
is 
dated to 525BCE which per Josephus is 70 years before the rule of Cyrus, 
again confirming the 1st of Cyrus to 455BCE.

--- 

Assyrian Eponym Eclipse - This eclipse occurring in the 10th of Bar-Sagale

is now dated to 763BCE and used as an anchor date for the entire Assyrian 
Period. The eclipse occurs in the third month "Simanu" but also in the
same 
rare geo-centro-sequential predictable eclipse pattern as the Thales 
eclipse. These eclipses which are 54 years and 1 month apart can be dated
to 
the third month in either 763BCE or 709BCE, but the 709BCE eclipse being
the 
third in the series occurring in Assyria would have made it the first 
predictable eclipse in ancient history and likely why it was the only 
eclipse recorded in the eponym. The offset during the reign of 
Nebuchadnezzar is 57 years so dating the eponym eclipse to 709BCE corrects

the offset by 54 years at this point. From this dating the Battle of
Karkar 
is redated to 799BCE during the reign of King Ahab and the critical
invasion 
by Shishak is down-dated from 925BCE to 871BCE, 54 years later. This 
completely resolves the archaeological evidence suggesting Shishak's 
invasion should be dated to a later period. Radiocarbon dating quote: 
"Although radiocarbon dating of the Iron Age period can be treacherous,
due 
to the wide margins of error involved, short-lived grains of wheat,
barley, 
and other plants can often be dated with reasonable accuracy. At Tel Rehov

there is a major destruction layer associated with hand-burnished pottery.

Radiocarbon dating of charred grains from this layer, which Mazar believes

corresponds to the Shoshenq invasion, gave dates ranging from about 916 to

832 B.C." (Volume 287, Number 5450 Issue of 7 Jan 2000, pp. 31 - 32 ©2000
by 
The American Association for the Advancement of Science) Of course, 871BCE

is right in the middle of this range!

--- 

Biblically dating the Exodus - The most direct means of dating the Exodus 
Biblically is via the jubilee method. The three major events where the
Jews 
are being freed from bondage or returning from exile occur on their
jubilees 
during a "covenant week" of seven days of ten jubilees each (490 years
each, 
3430 years total). The jubilee celebrates the 50th year of each 49-year 
period, but is also the 1st year of the next 49-year period. The return
from 
Babylon in 455BCE is the first jubilee of the third day, which anchors the

entire week. The final restoration of the Jews to their homeland in 1947
is 
the last jubilee of the week, exactly 50 jubilees from 455BCE. The Exodus
is 
the first jubilee of the first day which begins 980 years earlier in 
1435BCE. But since the first year of the first day is not a jubilee, the 
first day only has 9 jubilees with the first jubilee being the Exodus,
thus 
19 jubilees (rather than 20) before 455BCE. Thus the Exodus is dated 
specifically to 1386BCE. From this point we can date the 4th of Solomon to

906BCE, dating his 40-year reign from 910-870BCE. Note that Solomon was 
still ruling in 871BCE, the year of Shishak's invasion. This is a critical

point missed both by archaeologists and Biblical chronologists who don't 
realize that both Rehoboam and Jeroboam (whose reigns are parallel) began 
counting their rulership from the time of their divine appointment which 
occurred during Solomon's reign. Thus the 5th year of Rehoboam is a 
co-rulership year corresponding to the 39th year of Solomon. Since the 
cities Shishak lists conquering were primarily Northern Kingdom cities, it

makes a big difference whether Shishak was attacking Rehoboam and Solomon
or 
attacking his friend Jeroboam. Comparing 2 Chronicles 12:1,5 and 6
confirms 
that Rehoboam was still king over the entire 12 tribes as he is still 
meeting with the "princes of Israel" right after the invasion. Thus the 
Biblical dating of the Exodus in 1386BCE coordinated with the redated
eponym 
eclipse dating the invasion by Shishak in 871BCE is deemed quite reliable 
since the invasion must fall late during the reign of Solomon and during 
just a 6-year co-rulership!

----- 

KTU 1.78 - This text is a "circumstantial" eclipse reference included here

only because the Bible requires the Exodus to occur at the end of the
reign 
of the current pharaoh who dies in the Red Sea. 1386BCE occurs during the 
reign of Amenhotep III whether you use early or late dates. Since it seems

more than apparent that Akhenaton's focus and conversion to monotheism was

directly related to experiencing the ten plagues, it is fairly safe 
Biblically speaking to end the reign of Amenhotep III in 1386BCE. The KTU 
1.78 eclipse reference is circumstantial because the face of the text was 
charred in a fire at Ugarit and a fire was reported at the palace there to

Akhenaton in his 12th year. The eclipse occurs in 1375BCE. If the eclipse 
text is presumed to have been current with this particular fire, perhaps 
explaining why it is the only eclipse text found at Ugarit, then it would 
date the first year of Akhenaton to 1386BCE, the same year as the Exodus. 
Since the date of the Exodus is set to 1386BCE along with the beginning of

Akhenaton's reign, the dating of the Exodus suggests that this eclipse
text 
was current at the time of the palace fire. While this reference doesn't 
critically confirm the rule of Akhenaton beginning in 1386BCE, its 
application is clearly not contradictory.

--------------------------------------------------------- 


CHRONOLOGY ADJUSTMENTS FOR JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

Jehovah's witnesses are likely the most date-oriented and 
chronology-oriented modern Christian sect. As a result they have published

much information regarding the Bible's timeline, astronomical texts, 
archaeological comparisons and related prophetic significance. Since they 
use both secular and Biblical references alternatively, they have
developed 
their own unique Biblical timeline. The following compares the updated 
astro-Biblical timeline with their current chronology starting with the 
Persian Period and going back to the Exodus.

---- 

Jehovah's witnesses date the 20th of Artaxerxes to 455BCE to match the "70

weeks" prophecy, which specifies an interval of 483 years from the "word 
going forth to rebuild Jerusalem" until the baptism of the messiah in
29CE. 
Thus the rebuilding of the walls by Nehemiah, which took just 52 days is 
used to fulfill that prophecy rather than in the 1st of Cyrus when the
Jews 
first returned from Babylon to begin rebuilding. Of note to coordinate
this, 
a co-rulership between Xerxes and Darius I was established based upon the 
bas-reliefs at Persepolis, which show Darius and Xerxes together as kings.

The co-rulership observation is correct, but it was only four years, not 
ten. Further, of note, Xerxes and Artaxerxes were the same king. The
Persian 
kings adopted a new name when they took the throne and Xerxes adopted the 
name Artaxerxes, which he later used to fool the Greeks into thinking he
was 
another king. These ten years are reinserted into the timeline at the end
of 
the reign of Artaxerxes I to make his rule 51 years rather than 41 years 
thus JW and secular dating are in sync at the end of the reign of
Artaxerxes 
I. The dating of the 20th of Artaxerxes to 455BCE is based upon a single 
secular date of 539BCE, which they considered reliable and "pivotal" for
the 
fall of Babylon. Trusting that date, which turns out to be erroneous
causes 
an 82-year error in their chronology at the time the Jews return from 
Babylon in the 1st of Cyrus (455 vs. 537). At this point JW chronology and

secular chronology are in sync but share the same 82-year error. Then the 
Bible's reference to 70 years of desolation following the destruction of 
Jerusalem is used to redate the fall of Jerusalem to 607BCE based upon the

return in 537BCE. Both the Bible and Josephus, though, insert these 70
years 
not at the fall of Jerusalem in year 19 of Nebuchadnezzar but at the last 
deportation in his 23rd year, 4 years later. (Jer. 52:30; 2 Chron.
36:20,21) 
Making this correction and comparing Zech 1 and 7 confirms a 6-year rule
for 
"Darius the Mede" instead of just a 2-year rule, since the 2nd of DTM
occurs 
70 years after the destruction of Jerusalem and his 4th year 70 years
after 
the mourning for Gedaliah, which is still two years away from 70 years
after 
the last deportation. Based upon this and the reign of Nabonidus beginning

in 480BCE, the fall of Babylon is redated 7 years earlier than 455BCE to 
462BCE. This corrects the reign of Nabonidus to 19 years (instead of 17)
and 
the reign of Darius the Mede to 6 years (instead of zero or 2). At this 
point the JW chronology is now 20 years earlier than the secular dating. 
During the divided kingdom Period the secular dating follows E.R. Thiele
who 
coordinated co-rulerships for the kings of Judah and Israel during this
time 
whereas the JW chronologists did not, choosing to end-to-end the Judean 
kings leaving vacant periods of reign by the Israelite kings, sometimes up

to 12 years. The co-rulerships by Thiele reduces this period by about 47 
years, thus with the 20 years from the Neo-Babylonian Period, JW
chronology 
is now some 67 years earlier than the secular timeline, dating the Exodus
as 
early at 1513BCE and the 4th of Solomon to 1033 BCE. Since the secular 
timeline for this period is corrected by 60 years for the rule of Solomon 
(910 vs. 970), the JW timeline is now 127 years out of sync with the now 
coordinated astro-Biblical timeline.

1975 AD- This 127-year error is carried back to the time of Adam upon
which 
their 1975 date is based. The suggested adjustments for 1975 would first
be 
to add 127 years (2102 AD), make Adam 30 instead of 1 to arrive at the 
relative date for the end of the 6th creative day just after the time Eve 
was created. Since the millennium following the 1000-year reign of Christ
is 
a jubilee (50th 1000 years after creation week of 49,000 years) and since 
after Judgment Day Revelation 20:5 notes at this point that God is "making

all things new," which is an appropriate clue to the beginning of another 
creative week, an adjustment for the period of Satan's test of the 
post-millennial population as well as Judgment Day (which follows that 
during which all the dead return to be judged) is inserted. For Satan's 
test, the standard 40 years, and for the period of Judgment Day, a 
"generation" of 80 years giving a net reduction of 120 years. Subtracting 
120 years from 2132 AD gives us the date of 2012 AD, which might now be 
considered the new and corrected "1975 JW equivalency" date. Of course,
this 
is just a suggestion, many factors in this calculation are "highly" (in
more 
ways than one) speculative. But the implied comparisons are there in 
Scripture as guidelines, certainly.

1914 AD - 1914 is still a good date for the beginning of the "last 
generation" ending 1994. The "end of the gentile times" though should be 
moved to 1947 when the Jews were restored to their homeland. The date
Satan 
is kicked out of heaven is coordinated with both 1947 and the fall of 
Jerusalem in 529BCE. 1947 is the end of "1290 days" which fulfills "1335 
days" (45 years later) in 1992. Of course, the "7 times" of 2520 years 
applied to the corrected year for the fall of Jerusalem in 529BCE also
gives 
you 1992, so we know that dating is Biblically correct prophetically. This

coordinates, likewise, with 1914 as the beginning of the "last generation"

of 80 years ending in 1994 since 1992 does occur before the generation
ends 
in 1994.

With these adjustments, the primary "great tribulation" aimed at "god's 
chosen people" who are both the Jews and JWs is fulfilled by the
Holocaust, 
which specifically targets both groups. The "great tribulation" occurs
just 
before the "end" meaning the "end of the gentile times" (1947).

1925 AD -- Of trivial chronology note for JWs, their 1925 date equivalency

now becomes 1996. 1925 was based upon a perceived 70 weeks of jubilees,
that 
is 70 x 50 = 3500 years from when the Jews entered the Promised Land (1576

BCE, a date JWs later revised). The 70-jubilee period is actually 70
periods 
of 49 years each (3430 vs. 3500 years), which is a "week" of 7 days, each 
490 years long. This period is applied to the covenant "week" for the Jews

beginning in 1435BCE (Moses at age 30) and ending in 1996. As noted, 
critical jubilees were the Exodus in 1386BCE (1st), the return from
Babylon 
in 455BCE (19th) and final return in 1947 (69th). 1996 ends the special 
covenant "week" between God for the Jews, but also the special covenant 
between Jehovah and JWs (110-year Christian group "temple 
covenant":1886-1996 )

1874 AD -- The former 1874 date based upon the "1335 days" prophecy now 
occurs in 1992, but with the same significance with respect to dating the 
"second coming" of Christ, which would be "invisible" and "in the clouds" 
for the world at large.
_________________
Make sure of all things, hold fast to what is fine

PLEASE COPY AND GIVE TO A JW IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.  THANKS




 1 Posts in Topic:
For JWs and archaeologists: astro-corrected timeline brochure
"Lars Wilson" &  2008-05-07 20:15:57 

Post A Reply:
  Go here to Signup

AddThis Feed Button


About - Advertising - Contact - Frequently Asked Questions - Privacy Policy - Terms of Use - Signup

Contact
tan13V112 Sat May 17 2:28:34 CDT 2008.