On Wed, 7 May 2008 06:03:21 +0200, "~saba*gracile~" <veronisc@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>"Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarnason@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>news:aen6f5-so8.ln1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Tue, 06 May 2008 04:28:12 +0200, ~saba*gracile~ wrote:
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>>> "Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarnason@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> news:o7t3f5-bqn.ln1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> On Mon, 05 May 2008 04:45:18 +0200, ~saba*gracile~ wrote:
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>>>>> "Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarnason@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>> news:evn1f5-bqn.ln1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>> On Sat, 03 May 2008 08:26:53 +0200, ~saba*gracile~ wrote:
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>>>>>>> "Budikka666" <budikka1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>> Grrl Scientist at www.scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist
>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/5la6lh
>>>>>>>> re****ts on: "five male and five female Italian wall lizards,
>>>>>>>> Podarcis sicula, were translocated from the islet of Pod Kopiste
to
>>>>>>>> the nearby islet of Pod Mrcaru, both of which belong to Croatia
and
>>>>>>>> are located in the southern Adriatic Sea"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> War erupted and scientists never got back to see the lizards
until
>>>>>>>> relatively recently. What they found was an amazing example of
>>>>>>>> just how fast evolution can work its wiley ways.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Footnote to idiot creationists: Yeah, they're still lizards, and
>>>>>>>> no, no scientist has ever claimed they're not. But what you're
too
>>>>>>>> stupid to grasp no matter how many times you're hit over your
>>>>>>>> stupid heads with it, evolution isn't just about speciation
(which
>>>>>>>> leads to everything else) and nothing more. Evolution is about
>>>>>>>> change within a gene pool. That's what it's rooted in and that's
>>>>>>>> how it works its magic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It really is that simple. And if you cannot grasp this basic,
>>>>>>>> demonstrated fact, then you too are really simple.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So the amazing thing was that the lizards was still just lizards?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And the point was?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Beyond your capacity.
>>>>>
>>>>> No yours, arrogant ****. They didn't find ANY DNA change not the
>>>>> slightest.
>>>>
>>>> <quote>
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>>>> "Striking differences in head size and shape, increased bite strength
>>>> and the development of new structures in the lizard's digestive
tracts
>>>> were noted after only 36 years, which is an extremely short time
>>>> scale," said Irschick.
>>>>
>>>> </quote>
>>>>
>>>> I see. So in your view, magic pixies dropped by one day, using
little
>>>> golden hammers and fairy dust, changing the size and shape and so
forth
>>>> of the population?
>>>
>>> True evolution must've involved real change in DNA makeup.
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>> No, merely change allele frequency in the population. Exactly what's
>> happened here.
>>
>> Of course, one wouldn't expect you to actually *understand* evolution,
>> you're too busy trying to tell us it's wrong to ever actually
>> *understand* what you're saying.
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>If you can get your eyes on longer perspective, surely down the line
>the DNA must itself change or we wouldn't have all the different
>creatures with unmatching DNA now would we? but you're the
>most nearsighted people who's only goal is to defend your belief.
>There's no way to get passed the soggy mass of a brain of these folks.
>
>S
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Changing the DNA would also change allele frequencies in a more drastic
manner.
Ben
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